# Any negatives to ascending a troop? **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [June 5, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984 "2016-06-05T16:35:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Althax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Althax](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Althax)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/1 "2016-06-05T16:35:29Z")
I have enough duplicates to ascend one of the rares I use a lot. But he isnt at max soul level yet. Is there a negative to ascending him before level 16? Like do soul levels cost more as an ultra rare? ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/2 "2016-06-05T16:36:00Z")
There is no negative to ascending. Soul cost, traitstone cost, and disenchanting amount all go off of base rarity, not ascended raitity. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/3 "2016-06-05T16:38:37Z")
The only “negative” of ascending, if you can call it that, is if you happen to have a team with more than one of the troop in question, and ascending it would leave you with less total than you have in that team. That bit me once, back when Dust Devils reigned supreme, in that I ascended my Legendary Devils to Mythic – and suddenly I had only 1 left 😕 But aside from this admittedly edge case, no, there’s no reason _not_ to ascend a troop. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/4 "2016-06-05T16:38:45Z")
The only possible negative is if you use more than 1 in a deck and ascending leaves you with just 1… ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/5 "2016-06-05T16:38:58Z")
Beat you to it! Hah! ---
**Author:** ![Althax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Althax](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Althax)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/6 "2016-06-05T16:48:01Z")
Ok awesome! Thanks for the replies! ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/7 "2016-06-05T16:57:18Z")
Damn you! I’ll get you my little pretty, and your little dog too! ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 4:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/8 "2016-06-05T16:58:18Z")
It took me FOREVER to get a mythic crimson bat because ascending it would leave my main tan with only 1. ---
**Author:** ![snorlax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@snorlax](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/snorlax)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 5:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/9 "2016-06-05T17:52:33Z")
The other negative is sorting on rarity, there should really be a base rarity sort method. ---
**Author:** ![gerryq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ce7236/32.png) [@gerryq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/gerryq)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2016, 6:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/any-negatives-to-ascending-a-troop/7984/10 "2016-06-05T18:31:13Z")
The biggest negative is ascending all your troops - I would be happy if they auto-ascended! But then again, it’s nice doing the long-awaited ascension of one of your main troops manually…