# Amazing victories! **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [February 18, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829 "2016-02-18T16:50:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/1 "2016-02-18T16:50:52Z")
I just had 10 defense victories with 0 losses since the time I went to sleep last night and now. Never had that many attacks at once, and also never had that many wins with no losses! Was pretty excited! ---
**Author:** ![Studs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/studs/32/3498_2.png) [@Studs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Studs)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/2 "2016-02-18T16:55:53Z")
How bout sharing that uber defense team? ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 5:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/3 "2016-02-18T17:01:51Z")
Nothing fancy! Just a dragon team! I think they are all still level 15 also, and none have traits. It was really a fluke, my defense usually only gets me like 50% wins! ---
**Author:** ![Tyler\_Durden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tyler\_Durden](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tyler_Durden)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/4 "2016-02-18T18:08:30Z")
What’s the advantage to winning a defense battle? All you’re getting is a handful of souls out of it. It seems much more advantageous to have a week defense team that loses (and maybe farms gold), then Revenge after the loss. At least Revenge gets you additional gold and souls at certain thresholds. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/5 "2016-02-18T18:12:50Z")
I never bother with revenge honestly. You also get glory from wins which is nice 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 7:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/6 "2016-02-18T19:35:03Z")
That is thing of the past though when invading cost half of the gold you’d get as reward(before modifications) and revenges were cheap with just 50 gold. Now a revenge isn’t really any more efficient than just invading, so defence rewards are just bonus stuff without doing work. ---
**Author:** ![Rasper](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rasper/32/2363_2.png) [@Rasper](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rasper)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 7:40pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/7 "2016-02-18T19:40:49Z")
Except the bonus gold for every 15 revenges. Not sure what the base is, with my armor I get like 4k gold. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 7:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/8 "2016-02-18T19:44:59Z")
I am not sure how much gold 15 defence wins give(my all giant defence doesn’t get many 😕) but i don’t think 4k gold outweighs the gold/key/soul/gems rewards from 15 defence wins. ---
**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 10:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/9 "2016-02-18T22:30:37Z")
if you lose you get 1 glory then 3 more for the revenge for a total of 4… where if you win you get less ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 10:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/10 "2016-02-18T22:33:21Z")
Bah! Logic means nothing to me! ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/11 "2016-02-18T23:24:35Z")
I see little difference between invade and revenge battles except that you can’t skip opponent on revenges… Which for me makes them undesirable now: invading I hit about 1/3 goblins, 1/3 trueshot, 1/3 other… Revenging I hit about 95% trueshot teams… ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2016, 11:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/amazing-victories/3829/12 "2016-02-18T23:37:50Z")
But you still have to play the revenge which takes just the time you’d spend on an invade instead. So it is defence win+1 invade vs defence loss+1 revenge… the difference is small anyways but actually winning your defences should prove overall better rewards.