# Agile Trait! Broken for PvP **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation/Xbox)\ **Created:** [July 10, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360 "2016-07-10T17:15:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![JTango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jtango/32/6833_2.png) [@JTango](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JTango)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 5:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/1 "2016-07-10T17:15:10Z")
So I am sure most of you see this. In a PvP match against goblins. Line up your skulls & blam! Nothing! Agile trait 20% chance. This trait, time over time, proves to be utterly frustrating & broken. The description should read "20% chance to block skull damage %100 of the time. Makes no sense. I just have given up on any PvP match ups or PvP defense that include Goblins. Anyone else feel the same? Have any suggestions? Or continue bypassing. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/2 "2016-07-10T17:19:00Z")
Random is random. I face an agile team often and While it does seem to trigger a little more than 20% for the AI, I still punch through quite often too. You can always run a fully traited Gob-chomper (currently in the store this week for 400 glory). I love mine against goblins and monsters. Chomp indeed. ---
**Author:** ![JTango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jtango/32/6833_2.png) [@JTango](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JTango)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/3 "2016-07-10T17:22:07Z")
Whats your team build with Gob Chomper? I have a few of them from chest, but I wasn’t very excited to put a team together just for dealing with Goblins. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/4 "2016-07-10T17:39:19Z")
Since mine are fully traited, I went with 3 and Alchemist. They’re good enough to usually take down at least 2 by damage or devour. Alchemist provides the quick reload. Nothing fancy. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 5:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/5 "2016-07-10T17:39:22Z")
Goblins are everywhere and I use a team with a fully-Traited Shadow-Hunter about 50%, so I’m extremely familiar with Agile. I would say both the player and AI have around 20% success with Agile. As for @JTango’s issue with Hobgoblin’s Agile. Use Troops that deal Spell damage, Agile can’t dodge that. I typically fight Goblins with my own Goblins, best counter IMHO ---
**Author:** ![JTango](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jtango/32/6833_2.png) [@JTango](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/JTango)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/6 "2016-07-10T17:55:17Z")
Thanks for the feedback. I didn’t want it to come to that. I don’t enjoy playing Goblins all that much. I will work on something. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/7 "2016-07-10T18:17:56Z")
Other option is troops that deal frozen. That stops the extra turns. Of course the best frozen troops aren’t out yet, but something to consider since there are a few that do have it already ---
**Author:** ![Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@Fred](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fred)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/8 "2016-07-10T18:49:52Z")
My gob counter is quite easy Knight coronet (stoneskin) gob chomper Gob chomper Goblin crusher But i will try Shiratory’s of three chomp and alchemist ---
**Author:** ![killerman3333](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/killerman3333/32/4068_2.png) [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 6:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/9 "2016-07-10T18:51:49Z")
It is finally here the broken agile trait problems woot. ---
**Author:** ![gregsgroi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ccd318/32.png) [@gregsgroi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/gregsgroi)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 7:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/10 "2016-07-10T19:09:55Z")
I run a true damage team now because of all the stoneskin teams:- Gorgotha Valkyrie Crimson Bat Tyri ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/11 "2016-07-10T19:25:44Z")
> [@Fred](#): > > Knight coronet (stoneskin)gob chomperGob chomperGoblin crusher Vs Goblins: 1. Get that Gob Chomper triple traited 2. Get that Gob Chomper in the top slot 3. Enjoy the Victory Screen ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 10, 2016, 7:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/12 "2016-07-10T19:31:10Z")
My current fight had a Hobgoblin Goblin Boar Rider Goblin King My first move… Chomp. Delicious. Time to get a side of bacon with those chops. ---
**Author:** ![Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/db5fbb/32.png) [@Fred](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fred)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2016, 11:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/agile-trait-broken-for-pvp/9360/13 "2016-07-11T11:20:51Z")
Of course chomper is triple traited and it will be better on first slot. Its just that the devour sometimes not triggers before 3 or 4 spells ( yep rng unlucky ). So i use a tank troop to get breathing room. Probably sub-optimal but more rng compliant