# Adventure Boards (Average Weekly) Reward Calculation **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [August 8, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972 "2019-08-08T21:04:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [August 8, 2019, 9:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/1 "2019-08-08T21:04:48Z")
After a month of data collection and a lot of number crunching, here is the best calculation I have as to the _total_ weekly value of the adventure boards. Huge thanks to everyone in the data collection thread [here](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/post-your-adventure-boards-for-a-week-data-gathering/56350/390) for submitting a **ton** of data. Usual disclaimers: this is the _average_ weekly reward value of the entire table, assuming you cleared every task including the top task day of and are above level 150. YMMV week to week, or even month to month. But as to the question “what are adventure boards worth”, here is my best estimate. (I didn’t bother splitting traitstones up into sub categories.) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/8/f890d4b154eca1e8677c3fb6f63181c4be0e2da3.png) > **Recorded Data** > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/0/809c712a816789ef1c90bfa3d5d1fd0ff7580441.png) > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/c/fcf1ea0e87ab6d422fc1f13ef54b43bf323808a6.png) > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/f/2f792d41ead0f17455c07ba4d7bc942e2d90ea04.png) > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/1/3/131e0d7f12f381183e56d87144efd92ca42d1b6b.png) > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/8/58d73acd56468b2fe1df43bf26237a9474431ca9.png) > > Sorry, no color highlighting for task types. My context highlighting there is to simply see if I input an entry that can’t be parsed. > > Base rewards per task: > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/5/35a20f19ae8c2a4de94412b295e45fe6def2d12c.png) This is a lot to take in, so I’ll try to explain what each thing means. First off, I decided not to do another table that assumes equal weighting between task types. After compiling all the data, it seems pretty clear equal weighting between types of tasks is _not_ the case, and there are very clear trends. Instead, I did a third table where I did my own estimate based on the current data. Recorded data is simply a table representation of everything posted in this thread. The “day” field was simply for my use to double check if a poster missed a day or not. In general, I tried to align the columns so that each calendar day would fit nicely into a column, and the “day” would represent the day the user started posting, but this wasn’t possible for some posters. For single post week long sets, I moved them to the bottom and just did the whole set at once. For daily versus “all” sets, the “daily” set included data pulled from only posters that submitted consecutive days and only from data submitted _after_ they had already committed to posting in the thread. A few people submitted their initial set all at once, then continued posting day by day, these were considered daily. For those that missed a day after a week and kept posting, the set before the missed day is considered “daily”, the one after is considered “all”. If they stopped posting entirely, but did 7 or more days in the format requested, all their data was “daily”. “All” set is the daily set… plus everyone who posted anything in this thread, including those that did week long drops all at the same time. The only data excluded from this sheet are the single one time samples. “Daily” ended up making up the majority of the “all” set. Daily ended up making up the vast majority of the table, at 1500 task samples of the total 1872 (and 435 of the 539 top task samples). A total of 624 player-days worth of data are on the sheet in total. As you can see above, the “purity” of the data didn’t make a huge amount of difference in the end and I’m inclined to believe the “all” set is closer to accurate (more samples and no notable bias). Now, onto what is shown here. Each cell in each set takes the recorded respective appearance ratio of a given specific task(shown earlier, different sheet), multiplies that by the given appearance ratio of that rarity(compiled, shown on the right), and multiplies that by the reward value of that task to get the shown value, average reward per task slot. For example, a common gold task pays out 5000 gold, and has a current recorded appearance rate of about 15.12% on the all set, and a rarity appearance rate of about 35.2%, so the average per slot per day gold value at common rarity is about 266 (5000 \* .1512 \* .352). This is repeated for every task type of every rarity throughout the table. > **Type Ratios** > > Heres the type ratio table to include all recorded data: > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/d/dd53fbbc0803b34a03ba97e5b18a6a4229dadcaf.png) > > And here it is by reward type: > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/b/0b6c13bc6dcb23843ed8f0ece7411f3144544f36.png) > Keys used the key task appearance rate for every key type, since any give type of key reward only appears on key task and _all_ keys that are present are on this same task. So a 15% chance of key task means 15% of the amount of _any_ keys that task happens to give are added to the results. Next we have k150 vs k100. These are simple- their reward is multiplied by their appearance rate and summed to get the average weekly value for these two tasks. The yellow highlighted row is the average daily value for _all four_ slots. This simply multiplies the average per-slot value of each reward by 3 (since there are 3 slots per day) and adds the average daily value of the top slot task to it. The red highlighted row is average weekly value for the entire table. This is the yellow row times 7. This the **average** weekly rewards you’ll get every week if you _completely_ clear out the adventure board every day. The first table shows all the data compiled from the “daily” set, the second shows all data compiled from the “all” set. The _third_ table is my own estimation based on the current data. What I basically did here is intuited, based on where the numbers are trending, what a _human inputted_ table would look like, making minor adjustments or rounding from the recorded data. For example, I’d expect to see at most a couple decimal places from human inputs, and I’d expect task type ratios that are really close on the recorded data to actually be the same. For reference, heres my _initial estimate_ I did using a weeks worth of data and only my own data, and assuming completely equal weighting on every task type: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/a/7a93a47ac8f517bc84035baed33fcf836759accd.png) I’m actually sad how little a _huge_ amount of additional information and dispelling false assumptions altered the results. Other observations: - The exact same task does not appear to be able to repeat on the same day. This also does not appear to apply to different types of traitstones, which are considered “different tasks”, but thankfully individually weighted away from so that their sum just happens to be about the same as gems on most rarities. (This does not affect the calculated value of the table, which is calculated from recorded data) - The same rarity never rolled in all three slots, and I suspect this isn’t possible. (This does not affect the calculated value of the table, which is calculated from recorded data) - Most tasks rarities, especially lower rarities, that offer gems appear to weight _toward_ them. Surprising, I know. However, the same trend is showing for traitstones… - Gold, glory, souls, and keys (epic and below) appeared less than gems or traitstones on any rarity where all were offered. - Incidentals (pet food and jewel shards, Ultra-Rare only) barely had a presence on the table at all - Legendary (96 task type samples) currently appears to favor keys and chaos shards very slightly over gems. The sample size is tough to call if there is any significant weighting here, since 3-4 additional legendary gem tasks would make them about even. - Mythic task type ratios wobbled back and forth as I input the data, but ended up almost even on chaos shards vs keys at the end of the month-long session, which is surprising considering how streaky they were in the moment So, those are the facts as they stand now. Minor revisions or corrections could be pending, but likely won’t change much. My opinions to come later. Feel free to discuss. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 1:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/2 "2019-08-09T01:19:09Z")
So the big question is, do we have an accurate average for the previous tasks and weekly event? So as to compare the two? ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 2:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/3 "2019-08-09T02:17:47Z")
> [@Fleg](#): > > So the big question is, do we have an accurate average for the previous tasks and weekly event? So as to compare the two? Nothing approaching this level of data, just estimates, and yes, that is the real question. Since the raw gems was probably the most hot-button issue coming into this, I can say that I believe these **offer** about as many as the previous combined systems did (my lowball estimate was 250/wk, and just shy of 280 seems pretty spot on). Depending on who you ask, some would call it a _buff_ to gems. Whether you’ll _get_ all those or not, due to the structure of the k100/k150 events, is another question. Even though the tasks are designed to be “quicker” and the maximum weekly obligation for rewards from this system has likely gone down significantly, the minimum daily obligation has actually gone up significantly. If you skipped playing half the days and made up for them later with this system you’d lose half your rewards on average, but with the old systems you’d lose maybe 25% of your rewards. Players with daily high activity won’t be affected all that much. Do note that of the samples collected for ABs, almost 20% of them contained spill over uncompleted tasks from the previous day, and thats for the people that were already going out of their way to post daily in a data collection thread (a subset _of_ a subset of generally above-average activity players). But this is all _very_ intentionally part of the design of this system. Basically, evidence suggests that overall gem gains were not nerfed (depending on who you ask, they might have been buffed, and depending on who you ask, they were either made more convenient or less convenient). Keys obviously saw a hit, you can see that just comparing this data with _any_ screenshot of a full snotstone event alone. There is no estimate of the old systems that could possibly be lower with respect to keys than any of the tables above are showing. People were kinda intuitively figuring that out before we even hit two weeks in to this system. As for everything else… thats a much longer post. I’m working on some fairly broad generalizations that dip further into “opinion” territory. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 2:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/4 "2019-08-09T02:59:08Z")
So long story short, AB is quicker with about same raw gems but less event keys replaced by other stuff. IMO all thing considered and also now knowing the average gems per week from AB I’m actually happy with the change. I can now do daily tasks/dungeons/delves in 15 minutes total. The old tasks could take WAY longer and had to be completed even if useless rewards in order to get a new task the following day. Now I can just ignore soul and TS tasks. ---
**Author:** ![vanyel](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vanyel/32/32071_2.png) [@vanyel](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/vanyel)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 3:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/5 "2019-08-09T03:09:45Z")
Thanks @Mithran for taking the time to compile this. I was glad to have added to it. I actually compiled my own weekly average from the 4 weeks of collection (I ignored all traitstones & soul tasks). My weekly averages for every resource was actually lower than what you presented except for jewel shards, chaos shards & food. Many of them were relatively close but my gems are about 40 below the average. I must be getting significantly less gem tasks than others even with 2 of the k150 top tasks (took me 2 days to finish 1 of them so I lost 5 gems from my weekly average which still doesn’t catch me up). Even so i’m fine with the new AB. Thanks again for helping bring insight into the system! ---
**Author:** ![Bossfrogs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bossfrogs/32/53409_2.png) [@Bossfrogs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bossfrogs)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 5:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/6 "2019-08-09T05:31:29Z")
> [@Mithran](#): > > Keys obviously saw a hit Hoo boy did they ever. In a month of ABs I’ve aquired a total of 8 event keys. Im glad there wasn’t a big loss to raw gems but those event keys man. That’s a killer. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 5:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/7 "2019-08-09T05:56:13Z")
Did anyone see the same task pop up two days in a row? We have enough days collected that it _should_ have happened, so if it didn’t (much like three tasks of equal rarity) we can guess that it is prevented in the code somewhere. @Bossfrogs, you say that over 4 weeks of adventure board, you acquired 8 event keys total? That is _exactly_ in line with the average. Congrats! You’re neither particularly lucky nor particularly unlucky. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 9:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/8 "2019-08-09T09:00:02Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > Did anyone see the same task pop up two days in a row? We have enough days collected that it _should_ have happened, so if it didn’t (much like three tasks of equal rarity) we can guess that it is prevented in the code somewhere. That’s an interesting theory. I’ve recorded everything I got so far, no duplicate tasks on any two subsequent days. ---
**Author:** ![Bossfrogs](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bossfrogs/32/53409_2.png) [@Bossfrogs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Bossfrogs)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2019, 10:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/9 "2019-08-09T10:57:10Z")
I FEEL unlucky in the event keys category. ---
**Author:** ![BruisedBull](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/bruisedbull/32/57883_2.png) [@BruisedBull](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/BruisedBull)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2019, 4:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/10 "2019-08-10T04:20:03Z")
Nice job. Thank you for compiling data. ---
**Author:** ![Avathar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/avathar/32/33071_2.png) [@Avathar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Avathar)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 9:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/11 "2019-08-11T09:56:30Z")
Really interesting @Mithran, thanks for all the effort you’ve put into this analysis! I was wondering, did anyone else get the mythic key task in the adventure board this weekend? I got it once on Friday and once more today, I’m not sure whether I was really lucky or if it’s perhaps linked to the vault event (since the mythic task is linked to the vault ‘kingdom’) 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/12 "2019-08-11T10:02:12Z")
I (and many others) still have not seen a single mythic task, let alone the same task twice in three days. You got rather lucky. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 8:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/13 "2019-09-07T08:35:23Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > Did anyone see the same task pop up two days in a row? This has now happened! Today’s AB: ![gemsofwar](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/9/f97acdbbbcc3047939aecc43a6d060dd9aee74d5.jpeg) Yesterday’s: ![IMG_20190907_082912](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/3/e3577996f04efdd608996ab0345d97e584082f34.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 8:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/14 "2019-09-07T08:39:27Z")
So many traitstones… has anyone kept all the screenshots since the patch? How many of the total tasks have been traitstones? Our overall recorded rate was ~20% for all rarities and types combined on the table. I also went back and checked and didn’t catch a single incidence of having traitstones in 2 slots on two consecutive days from the same account, and thats happened I believe twice in the last week? Not sure if “bad luck” or “unintentional reversion to initial beta traitstone task rates”. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 9:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/15 "2019-09-07T09:06:15Z")
There’s no way it’s working as intended, not if Sirrian was even close with his 1 year estimation. ---
**Author:** ![aurora\_x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@aurora\_x](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/aurora_x)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 9:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/16 "2019-09-07T09:24:07Z")
I don’t have the screenshots but I wrote everything down. KW means calendar week (in German) ![grafik](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/4/b480a685b5d6e923bb34402242e99972fedb0b24.png) ![grafik](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/5/a58ed923200843dd6939a920b8d5348cad241c66.png) All rewards from adventure board for me at least… and Sunday obviously not included (first week is not complete) EDIT: Sunday now included. (First screenshot had the wrong amount of glory and souls, corrected now, sorry.) ![grafik](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/b/fbc9bbd00bccb448c308f6bb387356f2e0977a0b.png) ---
**Author:** ![Avathar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/avathar/32/33071_2.png) [@Avathar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Avathar)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 9:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/17 "2019-09-15T09:39:45Z")
Did the frequency of traitstone tasks increase dramatically after 4.5, or is it just my impression? 🤔 ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 9:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/18 "2019-09-15T09:52:25Z")
It really does seem that way - _especially today_ \*grumble\*… ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 10:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/19 "2019-09-15T10:43:38Z")
~~According to Mithran’s (pre-4.5) data, traitstones appear 39% of the time.~~ In the first 11 days after 4.5, there were 12 appearances of traitstone tasks, for a rate of… 36%. Now, it’s possible the drop rate changed after that post was made, but from the data I have available things are right in line with expectations. I’d need to see the updated list to draw any further conclusions. Edit: it’s been a long weekend already. I’ve apparently forgotten how to read charts. ---
**Author:** ![Mithran](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mithran/32/18064_2.png) [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2019, 11:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972/20 "2019-09-15T11:07:50Z")
> [@Grundulum](#): > > According to Mithran’s (pre-4.5) data, traitstones appear 39% of the time. Actually, I’m pretty sure it was sub 20… checking… yeah, about 19.5%. (Bottom row is the sum of all “of total” appearance rates, not its own thing to be summed to get the total) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/c/fce8de856c509e3381e7973e1c9de68e0ddcf94d.png) I’m not sure if we are trending _toward_ that number over this last week, or even further away. Definitely _feels_ like its not getting much better, if at all. Over the course of a week, I’ve seen people been this “unlucky”, but not often. There might be someone in my data that was this unlucky for two weeks straight even. I do remember distinctly the triple TS task only came up _once_ in my entire data set, so it feels really bad when its basically multiplied by a hundred thousand here. Any change in traitstone rates on ABs **should** have been a reduction, so we **should** be seeing _less_ than recorded 19.5% rate, since they were supposed to be reducing the frequency of the tasks people don’t want, and traitstones are arguably the worst ones (unlike souls, you can get a color that doesn’t help you even if you aren’t “done” with them). Frustrating part is we don’t know if this is “extremely bad luck”, “intentional because for some reason someone thought more traitstones would be good (???)”, or “unintentional bug” (eg., by reversion to early beta AB tables _before_ they tossed in the new deeds tasks). [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/adventure-boards-average-weekly-reward-calculation/56972.md?page=2)