# Actual Troops that break the Arena list **URL:** \ **Category:** Feature Requests and Game feedback\ **Created:** [October 7, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418 "2020-10-07T15:44:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 3:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/1 "2020-10-07T15:44:34Z")
Since we don’t have weapons and can’t see the defense we’re facing before the match. The devs are showing us why the hero is such an important balance to the game. All I ask is that you check to make sure the troop hasn’t been posted already. If you can’t kill him before his first cast. Then it’s game over. And since the game automatically sorts him into the 4th position due his rarity. Removing it is easier said than done. ![Screenshot_20201007-103724](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/e/6e0efac9ca324522294441ffaaae48189a2306af.jpeg) If it doesn’t skull frank your team to death by it’s self. It’ll surely waste way too many minutes to bring it down since it heals based on its new life stats after a devour. I’m done submitting bug reports that could be bugged like that. They either get ignored or just ninja fixed. But without an announcement players just find out the bug got fixed accidentally. It’s a shit way to go about it. But yeah…5.2 sucks ass and this and many other troops aren’t helping. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 3:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/2 "2020-10-07T15:49:09Z")
And before some douchebag comes and tries to say “I just need to be better at the game”. ![Screenshot_20201007-104757](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/b/9be9e817bf3dcf59c7815be99a5a584b47048610.jpeg) But I’m a realist… It was all thanks to “luck”. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 3:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/3 "2020-10-07T15:56:18Z")
![Screenshot_20201007-105515](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/9/097da4171ee431be48b49ecaf9c4649f4491a083.jpeg) Removes 10 armor from all enemies. And deals 10 damage to a single target. Though it does the damage before removing the armor. ---
**Author:** ![ButtStallion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@ButtStallion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ButtStallion)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 3:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/4 "2020-10-07T15:57:30Z")
I mean, you def need to get better at the game, that’s obvious from most of your other complaints on the forums. Or at the very least learn to move on from tiny issues you want to be the white knight about. In this case you clearly have valid points. Hopefully a large list of bannable troops gets listed here as I can see frustration mounting for the .05% that care to play arena. Keep up the good work.(no sarcasm intended) ---
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 4:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/6 "2020-10-07T16:45:17Z")
Not trying to be a douche bag @awryan , you got a possible infinite summoner in your team. 😜 ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/7 "2020-10-07T16:51:49Z")
Pyggra is not a troop I would like to be left with. It explodes red gems and has a 20% chance to summon a copy of itself. That’s not going to win you Arena matches. Any other troop that deals damage to multiple or all enemies will eventually kill it. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/8 "2020-10-07T16:55:37Z")
> [@jpraveensn](#): > > Not trying to be a douche bag @awryan , you got a possible infinite summoner in your team Summoned troops do less skull damage. So it’s as much a negative as a benefit in that situation. I didn’t summon any troops to win. Again…pure luck. ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/9 "2020-10-07T18:23:01Z")
Lady Ironbeard can one-shot just about anyone AND gets to heal her armor as she does it… ---
**Author:** ![mitamata](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mitamata/32/10313_2.png) [@mitamata](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mitamata)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 9:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/10 "2020-10-07T21:00:41Z")
Is this broken? Or just useful? 🤔 ![Screenshot_20201006-192922](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/0/0081f12151b18acaae87300e7d8bdfa0db291b3a.jpeg) 3rd troop is Lyriath. It indirectly won all the games in that run for me. ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 9:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/11 "2020-10-07T21:55:48Z")
Does anyone know if I have enough Attack to kill the last enemy troop? Just kidding, all my troops had reflect, his own attack killed him. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/2/3/23aa8b5c3c8aaa55223eefff6cc7f32fe11e4b9d.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/12 "2020-10-07T21:58:09Z")
At the risk of being off-topic: I think this mode is going to be a real 💩 show when all the opponents faced are not pre-made seeds but rather teams with these Uber-level troops… ---
**Author:** ![igniteice](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/igniteice/32/67904_2.png) [@igniteice](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/igniteice)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/13 "2020-10-07T22:57:54Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/a/bacd7fb698f7cdb9ba4fdf6d19b65776d97dd76a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![cyberkiwi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8dc957/32.png) [@cyberkiwi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/cyberkiwi)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2020, 10:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/14 "2020-10-07T22:59:52Z")
Just anecdotal (not a “git gud” comment) - but I’ve done 7 arena runs since release and have lost ONE battle in all of that, when I was a little more distracted. By the 4th run, I was starting to play a lot faster since a loss is neither here nor there (not GW), so it’s not GW level of care. Who knows, maybe I’ve just been lucky so far? 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 8:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/15 "2020-10-08T08:11:58Z")
> [@cyberkiwi](#): > > Who knows, maybe I’ve just been lucky so far? 🤷‍♂️ Nope you were not. And neither was I → similiar results, did few runs yesterday, lost maybe a battle or two…(and those battles i’d call → “bad luck”) all runs finished with 6 wins. It’s easy game mode when you look at troops. I tend to look for synenergies when building my team, but if no synenergies are being offered i just pick the best troop of 3 given. My few arena runs were basicaly: Strigfiddler who silenced whole enemy team Wild Fang, who worked as runic blade with his gain 8 to all stats after killing enemy with his cast. Tau - simliar story do Wild Fang, but only +4. Full green team, with Glade Warrior in front, and 3 summoners behind him (Mecha Rat, Giant Spider,Morterra). other teams i don’t remember, but at least one had Bonebinder (which is pretty luck based with his doomskulls creations and can backfire a lot) and Knight Coronet (with his absurd damage spell). Thing is, you can build a team that wins a lot. Only thing that you should be avare is to avoid mana converters picks, unless you already have a troop that can benefit from conversion. Worst thing that can happen, is picking mana converter who will feed enemy troops with mana, and dry your from your colors) ---
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 9:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/16 "2020-10-08T09:18:20Z")
Not the troop, per se. But yeah, AI got 3 rogue troops. Kudos. ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/b/6b89ed2991e539dd0f2941c22a384e09ed4b054a.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 9:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/17 "2020-10-08T09:24:14Z")
team bonuses doesn’t apply to Arena… 😕 my 4x green team, didn’t get life boost (which would be amazing) ---
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 10:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/18 "2020-10-08T10:05:20Z")
No, but the middle troop there “Pirate” adds attack to all rogue allies. Feels like it is more than just a coincidence for there to be 3 rogue allies. ---
**Author:** ![Sytro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sytro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sytro)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 10:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/19 "2020-10-08T10:11:30Z")
> [@jpraveensn](#): > > Feels like it is more than just a coincidence for there to be 3 rogue allies. it’s not, sombody had to pick them up 😛 ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/20 "2020-10-08T13:23:18Z")
Let’s at least try to stay on topic. There’s plenty of arena based threads to go around. This one focuses on OP troops in the arena. ![Screenshot_20201008-081731](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/6/e6490ccfc4d204a8eebde943e74a7dca6a6a764d.jpeg) This troop mainly because the AI will always put it in the 4th position on defense. I don’t enjoy winning based on pure luck. ![Screenshot_20201008-081827](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/2/92737891b9a9715598a6b36aafacbe9415c3873f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![jpraveensn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jpraveensn/32/74494_2.png) [@jpraveensn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/jpraveensn)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2020, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418/21 "2020-10-08T13:33:16Z")
![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/3/93d5e5d77399dc393ef8b3f78e756f86b814ae53.jpeg) This one burns all enemies. Doing 3x4 max damage per change of turn. It is HUGE for Arena stats. DIMETRAXIA is another troop that can do “Burn all enemies” with 75% chance. [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/actual-troops-that-break-the-arena-list/66418.md?page=2)