# About those wisps **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\ **Created:** [September 14, 2017, 11:02pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302 "2017-09-14T23:02:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 9:59pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/61 "2017-10-06T21:59:42Z")
Guys! If frozen is eliminated from the game entirely this becomes moot. Thats why freeze should be taken away ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/62 "2017-10-06T22:00:31Z")
Who are you and what you did with the winged gorilla? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/63 "2017-10-06T22:01:48Z")
Ummm… Huh? ---
**Author:** ![Thegreyorc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Thegreyorc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thegreyorc)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/64 "2017-10-06T22:06:09Z")
I would say spillovers dont count. The effect would only apply if a 4 or 5 match starts on that card ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/65 "2017-10-06T22:09:06Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > Ummm… Huh? Behavioural analysis shows that the winged gorilla has been replaced by a replicant. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/66 "2017-10-06T22:10:25Z")
> [@Courtaud](#): > > Behavioural analysis shows that the winged gorilla has been replaced by a replicant Oh no! Not again! Where is this impostor posting? I didnt see it! ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/67 "2017-10-06T22:11:10Z")
Be wewy, wewy quiet. You can hear him breath. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/68 "2017-10-06T22:12:12Z")
Ok now i am confused… Is there an impostor or not? ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/69 "2017-10-06T22:21:09Z")
> [@Thegreyorc](#): > > I would say spillovers dont count. The effect would only apply if a 4 or 5 match starts on that card But double turn has nothing to do with filling the card, so why should spillover matter? Question: if a make a 4-match of a frozen color, and then a second 4-match of an unfrozen color cascades, does the second match trigger a second turn? I cannot recall if it does. @Vangor There is only Zuul. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/70 "2017-10-06T22:21:50Z")
Im not zuul… I am vangor ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/71 "2017-10-06T22:22:38Z")
Has anyone else seen an impostor of me posting anywhere? I have looked and i dont see it ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/72 "2017-10-06T22:24:49Z")
Prove it. Those “10 characters” popup are tiresome. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2017, 10:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/73 "2017-10-06T22:26:54Z")
Do you see my little yellow icon on my avatar? How about my title? Those cant be faked so thats how you know i am the real vangor. Plus i havent changed my name to zuul so theres that… ---
**Author:** ![Pantenkind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pantenkind/32/32018_2.png) [@Pantenkind](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pantenkind)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 12:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/74 "2017-10-07T00:26:28Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > > [@Thegreyorc](#): > > > > giving freeze the rule that a only the troop is frozen > > As in, only deny an Extra Turn if the Frozen troop gained mana from the specified 4-match? I think that’d muddy the mechanics up way too much. Imagine a case where an unfrozen troop sits in front of a Frozen one of the same color. Would you say that a 5-match that spills a single point of mana over into the Frozen troop would be enough to deny the ET? What if you matched a 5-match and a 3-match in that turn, does the 5-match go to the first troop and the 3-match to the second (thus ET) or vice versa (thus no ET)? > > I get where you’re coming from, and in simple cases it makes sense that a troop untouched by collected mana would not impact the ET eligibility, but I think in practice it opens up too many edge cases to be practical. I think it’s as simple as if there is a color unfrozen it doesn’t stop the extra turn. Say you have a blue troop and a blue red. The blue gets frozen, but blue still causes an extra turn because it’s on the other troop. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/75 "2017-10-07T00:40:57Z")
Thats an excellent idea! So in my GW battles the only way frozen stops my ET is if all 4 troops are frozen! Cuz all 4 troops have blue and only 3 are frozen because that 4th unfrozen troop also has blue i would still get my ET on a 4 blue match! Thanks @Pantenkind for the great idea! ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 1:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/76 "2017-10-07T01:28:58Z")
Why this “nerf wisp” thread is now about nerfing Freeze? ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 3:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/77 "2017-10-07T03:40:32Z")
@turintuor im sure i derailed it i am sorry ---
**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2017, 7:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/78 "2017-10-07T19:13:01Z")
Dark Monolith Dwarven Gate Dwarven Gate Oracle Hero (centaur) with a Dream Catcher ---
**Author:** ![NightStalker](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nightstalker/32/35535_2.png) [@NightStalker](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NightStalker)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 10:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/79 "2017-10-08T10:20:27Z")
What I dont understand is why the devs hesitate nerfing this annoying OP troop!! You didnt hesitate when nerfin Princess Fizzbang, not giving her a chance even two days… Are the Wisps bribing you??? ---
**Author:** ![AngryMidget](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/angrymidget/32/10478_2.png) [@AngryMidget](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AngryMidget)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302/80 "2017-10-08T10:54:16Z")
Wasn’t removing surge on 4x matches supposed to be the Wisp nerf? Obviously it wasn’t effective but that may have been the idea behind it. Of course all it’s done is slowed the game down, making matches take longer. Somewhat negating the new speed which lead to the diminished rewards in tasks. I’m still waiting for the rewards to be increased to match the new speed of the game. Game gets faster, rewards go down. Game gets slower, rewards should be increased. Or am I just being entitled? Long story short. They don’t care. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/about-those-wisps/30302.md?page=5)