# A question about pvp points **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PlayStation/Xbox)\ **Created:** [July 23, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768 "2017-07-23T05:19:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Pantenkind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pantenkind/32/32018_2.png) [@Pantenkind](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pantenkind)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 5:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/1 "2017-07-23T05:19:32Z")
I am sitting currently with a 364 win and 78 loss record. On defense I am 108-147 and I currently have 17.5k pvp points. Someone else has a record of 375-88 and on def 26-59 and has 23k pvp points. I only fight tier 3 (3trophy fights) so how do I have that many less points? I am level 1120 and they are 832 in case that matters. I guess what I am asking is what factors contribute to the pvp points per battle that is making that much of a difference for an almost equal record? ---
**Author:** ![Chocky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/chocky/32/27752_2.png) [@Chocky](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Chocky)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 5:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/2 "2017-07-23T05:25:12Z")
Some color are worth more points, so if you use purple for example there is bonus for that - you check what day color for the bonus. Also, if your team Mythic, Mythic give you extra point because more powerful. Also, if you pay member like VIP you get the bonus too. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 5:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/3 "2017-07-23T05:28:33Z")
None of this has any bearing on PvP points won per battle. @Pantenkind . It boils down to the fact that you’re in a top guild so you get less points per battle than some of the leaders who are in guilds without all the extra bonuses so their teams are “weaker”. Nothing you can do about it short of going guildless or joining a weaker one. It’s yet another thing about PvP that should be revamped eventually. ---
**Author:** ![Pantenkind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pantenkind/32/32018_2.png) [@Pantenkind](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pantenkind)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 5:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/4 "2017-07-23T05:45:04Z")
> [@Chocky](#): > > Some color are worth more points, so if you use purple for example there is bonus for that - you check what day color for the bonus. Also, if your team Mythic, Mythic give you extra point because more powerful. Also, if you pay member like VIP you get the bonus too. I think you completely missed what I was asking. You are referring to GW. I’m talking about points for the pvp overall rank. Shiratori answered and that makes sense. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![Chocky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/chocky/32/27752_2.png) [@Chocky](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Chocky)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 5:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/5 "2017-07-23T05:47:13Z")
Yes, but still PvP points for guild War., You seemed missed that. Oversight. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 5:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/6 "2017-07-23T05:48:32Z")
Your PvP score has no bearing on your GW score. Your GW score has no bearing on your PvP score. ---
**Author:** ![Chocky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/chocky/32/27752_2.png) [@Chocky](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Chocky)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 5:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/7 "2017-07-23T05:52:10Z")
No brudda, I say again you get PvP point for doing the guild war. So makes sense. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 5:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/8 "2017-07-23T05:54:37Z")
Yes you do. It is as if you faced them in a PvP match. But colors you use for the troops have no bearing on that PvP score. ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 6:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/9 "2017-07-23T06:03:24Z")
> [@Chocky](#): > > No brudda, I say again you get PvP point for doing the guild war. So makes sense. This argument in relation to the OP’s question is a bit mysterious to me considering it is has been absolutely 100% impossible to do Guild Wars this week. But to each his own. ---
**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 7:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/10 "2017-07-23T07:22:19Z")
We’ve never gotten a good dev answer on how gold and points are computed in pvp match ups. End game players in top guilds get less points per match. ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 7:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/11 "2017-07-23T07:51:28Z")
And less gold, despite having a higher multiplier. ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [July 23, 2017, 8:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/12 "2017-07-23T08:37:30Z")
Still confuses me how you can beat the paragon in guild wars and receive 15 pvp points ---
**Author:** ![Theicla](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/theicla/32/3624_2.png) [@Theicla](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theicla)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 11:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/13 "2017-07-24T11:52:53Z")
And the worst part is that you could be fighting the most difficult, frustrating and stressful GW battle of your Gems career to date… and _still_ win only 15 xp points !!! ARGH ---
**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 2:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/14 "2017-07-24T14:03:00Z")
I know this but why does your pvp rank increase when you win in guild wars? I I got three trophies for beating the paragon I’d expect far more than 15 battle points. Hopefully it’ll get a rework. ---
**Author:** ![Chocky](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/chocky/32/27752_2.png) [@Chocky](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Chocky)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/15 "2017-07-24T14:50:12Z")
Yes, is mentioned in latest developer update ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 5:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/16 "2017-07-24T17:22:14Z")
> [@Chocky](#): > > No brudda What does brudda mean? ---
**Author:** ![Pantenkind](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/pantenkind/32/32018_2.png) [@Pantenkind](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Pantenkind)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/17 "2017-07-24T18:32:03Z")
Hope they fix it. Seems to unnecessarily punish more active players. ---
**Author:** ![Salibu](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/salibu/32/23083_2.png) [@Salibu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Salibu)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/18 "2017-07-24T18:36:58Z")
I am more curious because I don’t see very many people say Brudda around here…only this guy and another. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 6:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/19 "2017-07-24T18:42:32Z")
Who is the other? ---
**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2017, 6:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768/20 "2017-07-24T18:49:37Z")
> [@Vangor](#): > > Who is the other? You know the other one, one that’s not you 😉 [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-question-about-pvp-points/27768.md?page=2)