# A New Mythic Approaches - Yasmine's Chosen

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [September 1, 2017, 7:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580 "2017-09-01T07:26:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/61 "2017-09-02T19:53:31Z")

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Again, would love to see what evidence you have here – feel free to PM me if you desire. Until then, this is easily explained away as bias.

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/62 "2017-09-02T20:00:01Z")

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> [@VIP Chest...What do you pull?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-chest-what-do-you-pull/10799):
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> Last few weeks all I got from VIP chest using Diamonds were stones. Now I get this garbage. What is everyone else pulling from the VIP chest? Just bad luck on my end?

You, ahem, also posted several times in that thread.

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**Author:** ![Taisiakat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taisiakat/32/75810_2.png) [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/63 "2017-09-02T20:10:06Z")

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I must say this was a SURPRISE today pulling from the Guild Chest at 40k. I actually almost like didn’t even realize that I had pulled her.

 ![yasmine](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/d/0/d01dd91d4511bc1135ffb636051dbbac08b4f5f4.png)

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2017, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/64 "2017-09-02T20:14:04Z")

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You’re right. I forgot all about that. My apologies. Well, let’s hope @Sirrian’s understanding is incorrect or has since been changed, because that’s just a bad decision:

> [@VIP Chest...What do you pull?](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/vip-chest-what-do-you-pull/10799/23):
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> My understanding is that it is seeded at the start of any server call with a millisecond time stamp based on UTC time (and modified by a salt value uniquely generated for each account on creation).

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 1:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/65 "2017-09-03T01:26:08Z")

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So it’s better to open 50 chests once than 10 chests 5 times?

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 1:29am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/66 "2017-09-03T01:29:31Z")

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Not really. If the RNG is reseeded, it can cause it to provide a less random sequence when viewed in aggregate. However, if it is being reseeded to the millisecond, two packets in quick succession will not be able exploit any favorable pattern. It won’t change anything really from an individual client perspective, but it likely would affect the distribution of rewards over a broader sample set.

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**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/67 "2017-09-03T02:36:27Z")

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uuhhmmm, and what’s that in english?

🙂

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 2:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/68 "2017-09-03T02:36:53Z")

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Short answer: Neither is better than the other. (at least from a single player’s point of view)

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**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 2:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/69 "2017-09-03T02:38:49Z")

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that’s what i thought the answer might be. the maths and probabilities and parameters of a psuedo RNG sequence are beyond my tiny little brain.

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 6:57am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/70 "2017-09-03T06:57:38Z")

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Millisecond reseed, one in ten thousand mythic gk odds, a static account created salt…

Their rng sucks, it’s prone to patterns on the smaller scale and some salts could be born luckier or some plain cursed. Gambling sites use specialized rng algorithms instead of standard library functions for a reason.

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**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/71 "2017-09-03T07:00:05Z")

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I just fail to understand why they’d even bother salting or reseeding anything. If the server worked off a global RNG with a sufficiently complex twister, there’d be no need for that sort of thing at all.

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**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 7:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/72 "2017-09-03T07:01:27Z")

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All this talk of salt is over my head, yet I’m salivating… 🤔😁

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 7:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/73 "2017-09-03T07:17:18Z")

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Further, I wonder what the overhead is on constantly re-seeding the RNG.

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 10:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/74 "2017-09-03T10:11:35Z")

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Nothing lol

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 11:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/75 "2017-09-03T11:16:45Z")

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Simply setting a new seed is easy, but I don’t know how much computation the salting (apparently needed for the new seed) requires compared to just drawing new numbers from the current seed. It’s obviously not my area of expertise, so I was curious.

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**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 11:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/76 "2017-09-03T11:44:58Z")

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So do you mean that it could be the reason some players drop the Mythic in 50 glory keys and others with 6k gems + 3k gem keys?

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [September 3, 2017, 11:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/77 "2017-09-03T11:55:21Z")

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Lyya (and apparently UKresistance) know more about it than I do, but this reseeding should be almost independent of the RNG’s output if the pseudo-RNG is properly coded (we know that the algorithm being used isn’t the issue, from previous posts by Sirrian). Any given string of 50 outputs should have the same probability of containing one that corresponds to a mythic.

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**Author:** ![Drathas](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/drathas/32/7344_2.png) [@Drathas](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Drathas)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 3:17am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/78 "2017-09-04T03:17:30Z")

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So what teams have people made with her?

I tried the following:

Gloomy/Aurai/Yasmine’s Chalice  
Green Seer  
Rowanne  
Yasmine’s Chosen

I like her, fits well with the other Forest of Thorns troops. 😁👍🏻

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**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 3:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/79 "2017-09-04T03:21:59Z")

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I’ve got one in the works, but until I get her third trait I don’t know if it will be worth playing or not (it’s damage is lackluster without the entangles)

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**Author:** ![Taisiakat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taisiakat/32/75810_2.png) [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)\
**Post date:** [September 4, 2017, 3:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-yasmines-chosen/29580/80 "2017-09-04T03:24:34Z")

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I’m not so sure @Ozball  
Ever since I started controlling when I open and how I open I have had better success at Legendary and Mythics.

I don’t anymore use all my keys in one session or sitting.

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