# A New Mythic Approaches - The Wild Queen **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [May 4, 2018, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081 "2018-05-04T07:00:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Calv1n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/calv1n/32/28721_2.png) [@Calv1n](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Calv1n)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/82 "2018-05-09T02:06:51Z")
I have now passed 12,600 Glory Keys, 1500 Gem keys, 400 guild keys used at the highest rank and 50 VIP keys with no “Wild Queen” ☹ This also happened with Voice as well but I spent 100 or 150 VIP keys on top of the keys listed above I have now wasted trying to get Queen with no luck. How is it even possible to have luck this bad 2x in such as short period of time. It’s crazy this game doesn’t have a “point” where it just gives you the damn mythic say at 10k keys combined or something…isn’t that enough ?! ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2018, 2:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/83 "2018-05-09T02:10:07Z")
I know the feeling i had a bad 4-5 months in a row then luck came back but this is really frustrating cause when you out of gems and keys you need to buy it at a ridiculous price and you not even sure you will catch it. The best advice i can give you is wait for her in the soulforge and try to rebuild a good stash of keys. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 6:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/84 "2018-05-10T06:36:40Z")
The more I use The Wild Queen, the more I think Bone Dragon does a better job. What am I missing to making this Mythic usable? ---
**Author:** ![Griswald](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/griswald/32/27385_2.png) [@Griswald](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Griswald)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 9:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/85 "2018-05-10T09:50:59Z")
How long will Wild Queen be exclusive in chests? There are a bunch of stronger mythics I don’t have, so I’m sitting on all my keys until she’s gone. ---
**Author:** ![Aelthwyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/aelthwyn/32/4645_2.png) [@Aelthwyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Aelthwyn)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/86 "2018-05-10T09:59:35Z")
21 more hours to wait… ---
**Author:** ![Santandrix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/santandrix/32/68758_2.png) [@Santandrix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Santandrix)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 10:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/87 "2018-05-10T10:08:04Z")
Then the new kingdom!!! Perfect time to spend keys!!! Edit. 200 gem keys to get the wild queen here. Quite pleased with the cheap pull for a cheap mythic. ---
**Author:** ![Oscar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/22d042/32.png) [@Oscar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Oscar)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 11:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/88 "2018-05-10T11:05:38Z")
@Santandrix good for you. 3000 glory keys, 40000 glory, 300 gems keys, 1350 gems in vip chest and other gems in gems chest , over 11000 seal without catching this queen for my collection. Is absurd. I have this with 2 account from when I am over level 1300, did someone in this condition have same experience. Is months that I spend enormous resource and many time I’ll miss the catch. Of course I’ll stop the support because be a vip don’t make a difference and then you’ll see a guild mate no vip that catch 2 widow with 50 glory keys. Sorry for the complain but I had to take out my anger. ---
**Author:** ![Calv1n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/calv1n/32/28721_2.png) [@Calv1n](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Calv1n)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 5:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/89 "2018-05-10T17:49:49Z")
I’m in a similar situation. I’ve spent over 120,000 glory plus 7,000 glory keys I had saved up, around 1500 Gem keys, 50 VIP keys and used up over 7000 guild seals all with zero results (I think I received only 3 copies troops that I actually needed (could use to ascend non mythic troops) despite needing probably 35 to 40 different ones - it seems random works to randomly give me only troops I don’t need 🤔) ---
**Author:** ![Maxthor2789](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@Maxthor2789](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxthor2789)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 7:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/91 "2018-05-10T19:25:43Z")
Holy shit that is crazy af!! ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/92 "2018-05-10T19:54:32Z")
It’s always been clear players would be much more happy if there was a “pity mechanic” built in that guaranteed after some number of keys you’d get some guaranteed high-value thing. Small-time games like Hearthstone are experimenting with it, we’ll have to see if it bankrupts them. For reference, the odds were against you Calv1n. Let’s say we consider 97% to be high enough odds it’s “guaranteed” (even though 3% can still happen.) Using the chest tool at Taran’s World we can see we need to open: - 350 VIP keys (Very expensive!) - 3,500 Guild keys (70,000 seals) - 3,700 Gem Keys (Not sure why it took more?) - 25,000 Glory keys So the percentage chances you took were: - 7k Glory keys + 120k glory = ~7700 glory keys = 65.98% - 1500 gem keys = 76.32% - 50 VIP keys = 39.47% - 7k guild seals = 350 keys = 31.49% The VIP and guild seals were the worst bet. The Gem/Glory losses were the worst _result_, you lost a 3/4 roughly twice and that hurts. ☹ This is why I picked 97% as my threshold for “mad that I lost”. Pokemon taught me that even 80% fails a miserably common amount of time! All of this is meant to highlight trying for a specific mythic is _a very bad gamble_ and involves _a ridiculous amount of resources_ for success. Considering how many keys it takes to reach reasonable expectation of success, Soulforge is probably _faster_. ---
**Author:** ![mld-81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mld-81/32/63170_2.png) [@mld-81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mld-81)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/93 "2018-05-10T20:04:36Z")
About time, saving keys between kingdom releases is a challenge 😂 ![PS_Messages_20180510_205949](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/1/b1d5f2b8098b7afd207ef2957f85698093418226.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/94 "2018-05-10T20:09:15Z")
You need more gem keys than guild keys because you don’t get souls or gems in guild keys (so more room for troops and traitstones). ---
**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/95 "2018-05-10T20:12:49Z")
Pray tell, how did you manage a few VIP keys there? I’m a VIP level 8 and don’t I’ve ever seen one in my life, or maybe forgot when I got them for purchasing things? I’m just more impressed at seeing that than anything else I’ve seen in the last few weeks. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/96 "2018-05-10T20:14:48Z")
3 were given away during Thanksgiving and 3 were given away during Christmas time ---
**Author:** ![Doordash\_Support](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/doordash_support/32/45654_2.png) [@Doordash\_Support](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Doordash_Support)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:16pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/97 "2018-05-10T20:16:08Z")
Aha! I must have just forgotten then. Thanks for the info though. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/98 "2018-05-10T20:18:38Z")
> [@Slypenslyde](#): > > It’s always been clear players would be much more happy if there was a “pity mechanic” Last i remember people didin’t want pity timer > [@Pity Timer, still in the making?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pity-timer-still-in-the-making/23907): > > Continuing the discussion from [Event chests, glory packs](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/event-chests-glory-packs/6908/18): @Nimhain, just wondering out loud after a guild chat convo. A year on from the first mention of this, is a pity timer still something that may occur in game? ---
**Author:** ![mld-81](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mld-81/32/63170_2.png) [@mld-81](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/mld-81)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/99 "2018-05-10T20:24:25Z")
as @TheIdleOne said, they are free keys that were giving out, mine are still there from the Christmas set 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Calv1n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/calv1n/32/28721_2.png) [@Calv1n](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Calv1n)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:45pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/100 "2018-05-10T20:45:03Z")
Update Now I’ve spent over 13,550 glory keys, around 1600 Gem keys, 60 VIP keys and used up 11,660 guild seals at the highest rank all with zero results. That is unbelievable to me that I do not have the new mythic 🤔😖 ---
**Author:** ![Maxthor2789](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@Maxthor2789](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxthor2789)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/101 "2018-05-10T20:48:12Z")
Seriously plz STOP!!! That mythic is far from being good anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Calv1n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/calv1n/32/28721_2.png) [@Calv1n](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Calv1n)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2018, 8:50pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081/102 "2018-05-10T20:50:15Z")
Yeah I think that is what makes it worse. I don’t even really want it to use it I want it so I don’t fall even further behind in collecting all the troops i was down to 6 troops left now I’m back at 8 ☹ [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081.md?page=4) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-the-wild-queen/39081.md?page=6)