# A New Mythic Approaches – Succubus Queen
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-succubus-queen/83793
**Category:** Official News
**Created:** [April 5, 2024, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-succubus-queen/83793 "2024-04-05T07:00:06Z")
**Posts on this page:** 4
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### Author:  [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2024, 6:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-succubus-queen/83793/21 "2024-04-06T06:30:54Z")
> [@Gandalfstormbringer](#):
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> Lost one out of the last 44 in central.
Your high winning rate with that team suggest to me that it is far to easy for you. Why aren’t you challenging yourself? I always thought you liked a challenge.
It is time to bench the pretty fun and usable Mythic, and go for F tier Mythics, instead of E. 🤸♂️
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### Author:  [@Stroganrog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stroganrog)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2024, 6:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-succubus-queen/83793/22 "2024-04-06T06:42:11Z")
YES!!! Buff, buff, buff - please buff her!
Charm a random enemy on 4 match (or just 3) - it looks alright, no?
That would be the total mayhem. Love it!
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### Author:  [@Mithran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mithran)
#### Post date: [April 6, 2024, 6:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-succubus-queen/83793/23 "2024-04-06T06:55:31Z")
> [@Kezef](#):
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> Why are you asking for logic and common sense from whoever is designing these troops? What in the past several years of troop design has led you to believe that it has existed before, let alone being employed now?
I know this was meant as both rehtorical and sarcastic but…
This is the first instance I can recall of of a Mythic trait being a copy of a Legendary one and **strictly** worse. Meaning same exact effect and trigger condition, right down to the gem color, but lower numbers. There have been exact copies, and copies with bigger numbers, and traits that are _arguably_ worse because the trigger condition is “harder” in most cases, but this one is **strictly** worse. This is compounded by the fact that Yao Guai makes reds and has a spell boosted off his own life, making the trait in concept _way_ more synergistic than for this troop that _at best_ has a small chance of fudging a break point for true damage on this troop. Generally it is not worth evaluating traits in a vaccuum, but the trait isn’t particularly good and the troop as a complete package is mediocre at _best_. And I feel I’m being pretty generous here, if it wasn’t for the recent trend of finally giving more mythics \> 1.0x magic to damage rate, which seems to be an explicit _attempt_ to power creep with very hit and miss outcomes, it would be utterly unremarkable even by the standards of a few years ago.
I’m zeroing in on the trait because it comes off as lazy to either not notice this or detached enough to not care releasing it like this, AND also nonsensical to introduce a “strictly worse” and less synergistic trait to an existing lower rarity troop when the _goal_ for recent mythics seems to be “bigger and better” (at least on paper, for most of them). “Didn’t know” _and_ “didn’t care” are both bad here, though it isn’t immediately clear which is worse for future design prospects (I don’t expect this troop to be salvaged), although the traits being worded so similarly that a simple search could verify one already existed even _without_ encyclopedic knowledge of every trait suggests a little bit of both.
Whenever there is an escalation on bad design practices, it feels like it is worth calling out. Even if nothing will come of it. Maybe even especially so. If nothing else to show that it is, in fact, an escalation for those that come later.
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### Author:  [@ANGI](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ANGI)
#### Post date: [April 12, 2024, 5:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-succubus-queen/83793/24 "2024-04-12T17:47:28Z")
nope, immediately in pool, not in 3-4 weeks
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