# A New Mythic Approaches - Jotnar Stormshield **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [February 3, 2017, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452 "2017-02-03T07:00:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 11:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/62 "2017-02-03T23:08:10Z")
Not sure why mass Burning (War, Dimetraxia, Jarl) wouldn’t accomplish that. Although Dimetraxia’s spell could stand to be 100% at this point… ---
**Author:** ![hnnng](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e57/32.png) [@hnnng](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/hnnng)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/63 "2017-02-03T23:29:19Z")
This is what I’m rolling with, except I threw in another Giant instead of Hell Cat for added bonus damage. Kraken definitely helps. Anyone got any other team ideas? ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 12:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/64 "2017-02-04T00:14:21Z")
Kraken for sure pop, and plague and moloch can also pop it in 50% of times when you match 4/5. ---
**Author:** ![Mekkalyn](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mekkalyn/32/21868_2.png) [@Mekkalyn](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mekkalyn)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 2:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/65 "2017-02-04T02:19:44Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > Not sure why mass Burning (War, Dimetraxia, Jarl) wouldn’t accomplish that Or krakens third trait. Get a 4 of a kind and every barrier will be wiped out. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 2:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/66 "2017-02-04T02:22:43Z")
Or Death if you are lucky 🙂 . ---
**Author:** ![majorbly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@majorbly](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/majorbly)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 9:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/67 "2017-02-04T09:04:35Z")
He’s weak and still venerable to a strike ana status like death Game over. Also, Succubus and Kerberos. He’ll not last long against those 3. ---
**Author:** ![Spherix](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/spherix/32/2388_2.png) [@Spherix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Spherix)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2017, 3:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/68 "2017-02-04T15:25:38Z")
There’s a difference between targeting a troop’s weaknesses or defending against its strengths and flat out punishing something that is normally beneficial, inverting a strength into a weakness. Amira or Desmaemona, for instance, are just particularly effective against certain categories of troops. That’s no different than the various “Slayer” traits. The categories themselves have no meaning or consequence on their own, they exist purely to make them strong or weak against certain other troops, or to have synergy with other troops. But a certain color or type isn’t an advantage or strength in isolation. Same with color removal. Removing or converting certain colors is effective at mana blocking troops that use that color. Boosting on colors that the enemy creates or converts to does punish their strategy, but is risky to take advantage of. The more of the color, the stronger the boost, but you also risk handing them a board full of a color they need. I can only think of a few troops that punish enemies for buffing themselves. Bone Dragon’s the most obvious, and I think it’s been made clear how strong that is. Faunessa and Fel’Dras are boosted by enemy skills, and I suppose Charm similarly punishes attack buffs. Rakshanin, Ranger, Shadow Hunter technically boost off the enemy, but that’s just to make them scale, and doesn’t really punish self-buffing. They negate the advantage of doing so, without actively punishing the enemy for doing it. You could argue that Famine, Moloch, and Mana Burn all punish enemies for collecting mana, but I’d say it’s more that it punishes them for holding on to mana rather than casting their spells. Good counters to barrier are AoEs, split damage, and effects that hit multiple times, such as Infernal King’s spell. Those are generally beneficial, and reduce the impact of barrier without simply ignoring it or punishing the enemy for using it. I do think a particular effect that bypassed barrier without popping it might be interesting, because of how it affects team composition, similar to true damage. I don’t think you should generally be able to slot a single troop into a team, and have it nullify a particular defense for the entire team, because then it makes troops strong against something they shouldn’t be, reducing the pressure to diversify. Why use specialist troops when you can just nullify the enemy’s strategy, and then steamroll it with generalists? ---
**Author:** ![Vanessa202](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vanessa202/32/18636_2.png) [@Vanessa202](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vanessa202)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/69 "2017-02-06T21:26:27Z")
I cant believe it! I got him in a glory chest! I never even thought that was possible! I’m in shock here 😮 ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/7/5/7539c09182cefaa11861ec32db246961f103ab0d.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![htismaqe](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/htismaqe/32/23893_2.png) [@htismaqe](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/htismaqe)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 9:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/70 "2017-02-06T21:58:13Z")
Of the 5 mythics I have, 2 of them came from Glory chests. Believe dat. ---
**Author:** ![Vangor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vangor/32/31404_2.png) [@Vangor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vangor)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/71 "2017-02-06T23:15:57Z")
I never even got a legendary from guild chests before, than all of a sudden… ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/e/ee49f04d977468218ffbbe036c67f107204f7bf7.png)BOO-YAH! ---
**Author:** ![death](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@death](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/death)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/72 "2017-02-06T23:24:05Z")
Most of mine have come from glory keys. A handful from gem keys and a few from VIP. Had shocking luck with VIP on PC for months now. Thousands upon thousands of gems spent on it with nothing new to show for it gets old after a while. ---
**Author:** ![Vanessa202](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vanessa202/32/18636_2.png) [@Vanessa202](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vanessa202)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2017, 11:27pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/73 "2017-02-06T23:27:52Z")
The gory chests love us this week! Iv only ever got 1 mystic ( war) in a blue chest. I’m level 469 so I’m feeling lucky and may have to buy a lottery ticket 😉 ---
**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 12:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/74 "2017-02-07T00:09:50Z")
I can confirm that I have had at least one mythic from each relevant type of key: glory, gem, event (Kingdom local mythics only), VIP and guild (Level 6). Edit: Mythic not mystic… thanks @VegaDark541 ---
**Author:** ![VegaDark541](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vegadark541/32/7875_2.png) [@VegaDark541](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/VegaDark541)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 12:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/75 "2017-02-07T00:28:59Z")
> [@actreal](#): > > I can confirm that I have had at least one mystic from each relevant type of key I assume you mean _mythic_ and not mystic… ---
**Author:** ![Vanessa202](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vanessa202/32/18636_2.png) [@Vanessa202](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vanessa202)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 1:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/76 "2017-02-07T01:47:05Z")
Oh 😖 I did the same 😅 ---
**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 3:35am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/77 "2017-02-07T03:35:39Z")
I have only ever got mine from glory and gem chests. Oh and once from legendary task. ---
**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/78 "2017-02-07T03:47:05Z")
Wasn’t sure I was going to get him after spending so many keys last week but 50 more gems keys today got him finally. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/4/e46d537918c0a936f6ca8e8200fae3edb0c413a7.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Vanessa202](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/vanessa202/32/18636_2.png) [@Vanessa202](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vanessa202)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 4:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/79 "2017-02-07T04:40:41Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > Mythic Congrats he is a great and powerful one when traited to 3rd level ---
**Author:** ![Draprion](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/draprion/32/8238_2.png) [@Draprion](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Draprion)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/80 "2017-02-07T04:41:07Z")
Congrats ogunter ---
**Author:** ![Annaerith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/annaerith/32/13840_2.png) [@Annaerith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Annaerith)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2017, 8:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452/81 "2017-02-07T08:30:32Z")
> [@Spherix](#): > > If counters are too hard, they take the thought out of team building, and make switching teams a mindless but necessary activity, rather than an engaging one. i agree, dont want this game turn into rock paper scizzor [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452.md?page=3) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-jotnar-stormshield/19452.md?page=5)