# A New Mythic Approaches - Draakulis **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [September 2, 2016, 3:44am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766 "2016-09-02T03:44:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/121 "2016-09-03T17:36:21Z")
If he’s going to “lead from the rear”, then don’t give him 2/3 traits which are only relevant after 75% of your team is dead - that’s planning for failure and silly. Do something like…swap out Armored for Arcane, leave the third trait but update the text to make the life gain on any skull match clearly intentional, and change the ability to something that’s based on magic, boosted by his current Life, and has some beneficial impact on all other allies. Like “Steals (X + Magic) Life from all enemies. Creates 1 skull, boosted by my Life (8:1)”. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/122 "2016-09-03T17:56:11Z")
Queen Mab is proof alone that giving Arcane to Troops that hit all is a bad idea. * * * Look, nobody plans to lose or a have a bad battle but they happen and Troops like Goblin King, Gar’Nok and Draakulis are designed to battle back easier Emperor Khorvash Crimson Bat Valkyrie Draakulis Banner of Progress (Red/Yellow), Holy Banner (Yellow/Yellow) or Lion Banner (Blue +2, Yellow +1, Green -1) Should be a fun team ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/123 "2016-09-03T18:10:02Z")
That’s one of my attack teams, except Spirit Fox instead of Draakulis. ---
**Author:** ![Amadan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amadan/32/7653_2.png) [@Amadan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Amadan)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 6:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/124 "2016-09-03T18:35:57Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > Queen Mab is proof alone that giving Arcane to Troops that hit all is a bad idea. Firstly: That’s a facile argument; Mab has higher base Magic to begin with _and_ has a second scaling factor to her nuke (the enemies’ Mana) _and_ can cast almost twice as many times as Draak due to cost. No, her damage isn’t True, but her first cast will probably blow away most enemy Armor anyway, quickly making that less relevant. Mab isn’t inherently proof of anything other than “Mab has a fantastic kit that synergizes well”. Secondly: Would it even really be a **bad** thing if a Mythic was as good as a “good” Legendary? Thirdly: My suggestion was set up to make his kit work as a “lead from the back” unit. Arcane means you want him in the back to give him time to build up; the current third trait would feed into what I mentioned for his ability; that version of the ability would be useful for strong and/or buffed troops above him. I’m hardly married to Arcane - it simply worked for my suggestion. I just want to see either a really good reason to put him at the front (where he really isn’t very good currently), or Armored replaced with something that’s actually useful for a back-line unit. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 7:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/125 "2016-09-03T19:58:42Z")
Damage reduction on a rear Troop is actually a good thing, especially for battles that go bad. Draakulis has plenty to “build up” as is from the rear. He should be 100+ Life and 40+ Attack and still have use of his Spell to kill AND heal. Draakulis is a rear Troop, and the developers even took the players’ advice and avoided a third Trait like other rear Troops that ONLY works from the rear (Goblord, Orclord). ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/126 "2016-09-03T20:04:21Z")
Well, given this: > [@Sirrian](#): > > Draakulis makes a fairly capable front-line tank …I assume the intent was for him to be a front-line tank. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/127 "2016-09-03T20:05:18Z")
> [@TaliaParks](#): > > He should be 100+ Life and 40+ Attack _Now_ I’m confused - where does he get attack from? ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/128 "2016-09-03T20:08:57Z")
Unrelated … @Sirrian, what’s with the art on his ability? It looks like a chasm being formed between rocks or mountains. “Vampiric Blade”? Also - he doesn’t have Ghulvania’s splash as his background art either. ---
**Author:** ![Exemplar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@Exemplar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Exemplar)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/129 "2016-09-03T20:10:28Z")
It’s a sword. ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/130 "2016-09-03T20:11:23Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > Unrelated … @Sirrian, what’s with the art on his ability? It looks like a sword tearing through a mountain to me. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/131 "2016-09-03T20:13:29Z")
Oh I have something totally different here, weird. I can see the _possibly_ correct art (both of them) in the post at the top … _this_ is mine? ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/e/e2531ba3332bde0f5d7d184a0b1f6e8b27483feb.jpg) I mean, I don’t know what the vampiric blade is being used on a mountain for, if that’s what’s happening there. Still can’t actually see the blade in that image. I was thinking more like The Bloodthirster, not a chasm cleaver. Since its meant to be vampiric. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/132 "2016-09-03T20:15:31Z")
That’s also the art I pulled from the assets at last [drop](http://ashtender.com/gems/troops/Draakulis). ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/133 "2016-09-03T20:18:59Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > > [@TaliaParks](#): > > > > He should be 100+ Life and 40+ Attack > > _Now_ I’m confused - where does he get attack from? I was confused. Thought I read he gets Attack as well. Even so, the Life+Armored should allow him a good chance to fight back. ---
**Author:** ![Exemplar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/3be4f8/32.png) [@Exemplar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Exemplar)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:20pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/134 "2016-09-03T20:20:51Z")
I guess they used the wrong art since the one in the original post is different and more pertinent. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/136 "2016-09-03T20:23:49Z")
That could be an interesting alteration - like Gloom only potentially lethal. Of course then he’d literally be a Gloom/Bat hybrid, even the same colors. We know he needs _something_ more though. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/137 "2016-09-03T20:28:46Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > Well, given this: > > > [@Sirrian](#): > > > > Draakulis makes a fairly capable front-line tank > > …I assume the intent was for him to be a front-line tank. No offense to the development team but they aren’t as in-tune with how the game is played. They know how the game works inside-out, but HOW it is all APPLIED is outside their perception. It’s actually extremely common in game development, where players know the game better than the developers. Can you use Draakulis as a front Troop? Sure, but you shouldn’t. He needs to “buff up”, uses (blocks) 3 colors and isn’t an offensive or defensive powerhouse. All of this means he’s better suited lower in the lineup, where he can buff up, allow Mana to flow and deal spread damage like a support Troop. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/138 "2016-09-03T20:30:45Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > That could be an interesting alteration - like Gloom only potentially lethal. Of course then he’d literally be a Gloom/Bat hybrid, even the same colors. We know he needs _something_ more though. What if he stole, or just gained, Attack like I stupidly thought? ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 8:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/139 "2016-09-03T20:36:18Z")
I never claimed the devs were omnipotent or omniscient. I was mainly responding to this statement, which implies the devs see him as a back-liner: > [@TaliaParks](#): > > Draakulis is a rear Troop, and the developers even took the players’ advice and avoided a third Trait like other rear Troops that ONLY works from the rear (Goblord, Orclord). ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2016, 9:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/140 "2016-09-03T21:07:01Z")
Rear troops? What are we talking about here? I think he’s awesome, and I only wish I had the pleasure of using him. ---
**Author:** ![turintuor](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/turintuor/32/4097_2.png) [@turintuor](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/turintuor)\ **Post date:** [September 4, 2016, 2:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766/141 "2016-09-04T02:19:30Z")
Do you mean that Voracious triggers even if Kruarg is not in the first position? If yes, it totally changes how we can use it. Draakulis’s 3rd trait wasn’t “Steal” instead of “Gain”? [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766.md?page=6) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-draakulis/11766.md?page=8)