# A New Mythic Approaches - Aquaticus **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [September 6, 2019, 7:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719 "2019-09-06T07:00:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Legend](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Legend](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Legend)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/21 "2019-09-06T13:28:50Z")
Amazing 😉 Xbox One? ---
**Author:** ![Eika](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/eika/32/103088_2.png) [@Eika](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Eika)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/22 "2019-09-06T13:32:18Z")
> [@Legend](#): > > 150000 seals 150000 or 15k? Insane number this 150k… ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/23 "2019-09-06T13:32:47Z")
Yeah, 150000 seals is a bit to much 😃 ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/24 "2019-09-06T13:33:02Z")
1,400 gem (0.001 prob/pull) = 75.4 % chance for at least one mythic 150,000 guild seals (20/pull @ 0.0002 prob/pull) = 77.7 % chance for at least one mythic 200,000 glory (20/pull @ 0.0001 prob/pull) = 63.3 % chance for at least one mythic 50 VIP (0.01 prob/pull) = 39.5 % chance for at least one mythic Just like how some people will pull at least one with just e.g. 50 gem keys (4.9% chance) and feel very happy, others will be left feeling unhappy by beating the odds in the other direction. 😅 Procrastinating at work, so haven’t double-checked any of the above. 😛🖖 ---
**Author:** ![Maxx](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/maxx/32/50891_2.png) [@Maxx](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxx)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 1:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/25 "2019-09-06T13:57:16Z")
Wow that sucks. I spent less than that and got 5. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 2:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/26 "2019-09-06T14:14:37Z")
Those stats are one way to look at it (Imo the wrong way) Another way is to say they should have pulled about 10 mythics on average with that many resources. ---
**Author:** ![PeperandSalt](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/peperandsalt/32/54110_2.png) [@PeperandSalt](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/PeperandSalt)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 2:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/27 "2019-09-06T14:30:36Z")
I doubt that RNG works like that. M sure there is thread where Salty explained how drops work for @awryan (not sure and can’t be asked on how to link a thread lol) ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 2:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/28 "2019-09-06T14:41:12Z")
Alas: Probability is unaffected by ‘should’ and ‘should not’ 😅 …it does sometimes leave us with a feeling of ‘s\*cks’ though 😛 Agreed that using this many resources should give the players some form of satisfaction instead of frustration, but that is the publisher’s doing, not poor old Probability. 😌🖖 ---
**Author:** ![AMT](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/amt/32/56829_2.png) [@AMT](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/AMT)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/29 "2019-09-06T14:42:40Z")
It’s not independent Probability? I’d be interested to find that thread then! 😳🙏🖖 ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 3:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/30 "2019-09-06T15:08:44Z")
It is independent. I think he’s assuming you’re adding up to (eventually) 100% chance you’d get it, rather than doing a calculation that only ever _approaches_ that 100% by figuring out what the odds are of repeatedly failing for a given number of attempts Edit: also ~2k guild seals, so I’m pretty stoked this week 😁 Also @Slypenslyde, I think the main reason strategy talk doesn’t happen in these threads (which I agree is a shame) is that most mythics have already had exhaustive theory-crafts in the main spoilers thread by the time they actually show up in-game. ---
**Author:** ![HounganAtLarge](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hounganatlarge/32/28697_2.png) [@HounganAtLarge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HounganAtLarge)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 3:09pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/31 "2019-09-06T15:09:28Z")
7k seals. Which given my luck with mythics, is really cheap. ---
**Author:** ![Smithy373](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eada6e/32.png) [@Smithy373](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smithy373)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 5:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/32 "2019-09-06T17:00:04Z")
1k gem keys, 8k glory keys then it dropped from 575 guild keys ---
**Author:** ![familybph2014](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/familybph2014/32/51664_2.png) [@familybph2014](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/familybph2014)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/33 "2019-09-06T18:39:05Z")
![Screenshot_20190906-035726](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/f/cf6c4a223e20214dea678d6df834fb64914f1b2f.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:06am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/34 "2019-09-07T03:06:48Z")
1 gem key, I kissed it before putting it in the chest. ---
**Author:** ![shaftymcnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a587f6/32.png) [@shaftymcnasty](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/shaftymcnasty)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 2:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/35 "2019-09-07T14:52:39Z")
Around 1k keys between gem, glory and guild. Nothing. Not spending any more money on this game. ---
**Author:** ![anhlong1122](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/anhlong1122/32/63110_2.png) [@anhlong1122](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/anhlong1122)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2019, 3:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/36 "2019-09-07T15:33:43Z")
Only 1000 keys? That is actually not a lot ---
**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2019, 11:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/37 "2019-09-11T23:47:57Z")
Is that really true though? There’s usually some discussion on whether or not an upcoming mythic is good, but I haven’t seen too much strategic talk in that thread (i.e. what teams would be good, what other troops would go well with it, what it could counter/what counters it, etc.). ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 1:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/38 "2019-09-12T01:31:19Z")
How are people coming to the conclusions of whether a mythic is “good” without taking the relevant strategic points into consideration? I get what you’re saying, I think—that there should be more comprehensive discussions for every mythic if my hypothesis is to stand on two legs. But is a mythic, if its spell is deemed useless, its mana cost too high, or its trait-set lackluster (or all of the above), really worth further discussions, like potential teams? For instance, I _could_ spitball teams around Shade of Zorn — but it would be a waste of time at this point, because nothing I could build around his kit would be worthwhile in the current META. So, after discussing why his kit is bad (basically high set-up costs for a “save me when I’m down troops” strategy that, in Gems of War, is rarely a viable option), the rest of the conversation sort of dies naturally 🤷‍♂️ ---
**Author:** ![Mana\_Surgeon](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/mana_surgeon/32/55678_2.png) [@Mana\_Surgeon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mana_Surgeon)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/39 "2019-09-12T20:26:52Z")
I’m just saying, you were talking about exhaustive theory-crafts. I’ve seen one strategy post on Aquaticus and really none for Vash’Dagon (a harder-to-use than average troop) in that thread. Those aren’t bad mythics. ---
**Author:** ![Earnham](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/earnham/32/63013_2.png) [@Earnham](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Earnham)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2019, 8:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719/40 "2019-09-12T20:49:06Z")
The sad part is that all the the better players wont theory craft mythics because they dont want you to know. They may spit out a couple decent team ideas but will never let on to what the plan is for it until you see it as a meta defense team. You may never see the offense versions as they keep them all secret. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-new-mythic-approaches-aquaticus/57719.md?page=3)