# A Buff to Vault Rewards **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [May 21, 2018, 3:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843 "2018-05-21T03:58:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 1:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/142 "2018-05-26T01:37:36Z")
no more chasing silly azz gnomes for me ![Screenshot_20](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/5/55834bdebfbf023557627f9ab4fd2b717cb42b5d.png)es for me šŸ˜˜šŸ˜˜šŸ˜˜šŸ˜˜šŸ˜˜šŸ˜˜šŸ˜˜ ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 3:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/143 "2018-05-26T03:12:38Z")
Is this actually a buff? ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/8/8820d91e8f17b949edd6e75b3387ae28e882bbc9.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 3:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/144 "2018-05-26T03:21:50Z")
OK, this one is buffed! šŸ™‚ ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/2/02ee0f9b3e5dca9ac4443e912053c2526eb89359.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/145 "2018-05-26T04:10:38Z")
Keep opening the orbs of chaos are more frequent ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/146 "2018-05-26T04:53:27Z")
Another NOT seeing a buffā€¦ ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/6/46895b572e73159627348b8f411b5807626770d0.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Maxthor2789](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@Maxthor2789](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxthor2789)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/147 "2018-05-26T05:00:48Z")
Ya these 1 common card are a joke, it should be at least 5 gnomes! Only Cedric loots are buffed not the small gnomes drop. Unfortunately Cedric is the one dropping those x gnomes card ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/148 "2018-05-26T05:20:14Z")
Despite their rarity, I am sorely tempted to blow Major Orbs of Ascension on the Gnomes and Valraven. Which, one imagines, is precisely the point: encourage players to use the resource that most strongly limits their ability to craft Zuulā€™Goth, so that they stick around for even longer. ---
**Author:** ![Maxthor2789](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecc23a/32.png) [@Maxthor2789](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Maxthor2789)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/149 "2018-05-26T07:14:27Z")
I am tempting on using it on Guild Guardian or even better for next guild Guardians that there are rumors that they might come. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 2:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/150 "2018-05-26T14:56:58Z")
I have to sigh and admit that last night in something like 15 total matches I got: - 5 gnomes - 2 Vault Keys yielding a lot of garbage but a ā‡ Major Orb of Ascension ā‡ - 6 Arcanes It made me think though: if I get just one _good_ prize out of the gnome weekend Iā€™m pretty happy. Itā€™d be neat if the Vault had a difficulty spread like Bounty, where if you buff Cedricā€™goth to higher levels your prize pool is increased. High-end raid boss fights are a crapshoot, but I canā€™t deny I wouldnā€™t take a 10% chance at Cedricā€™goth if a win guaranteed a major chaos orb. ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/151 "2018-05-26T17:33:38Z")
I am glad i didinā€™t use any orb yet, with the addition of pets and vault buff, i can now think of crafting zuul. Yesterday i crafted my first power orb and only need 1 major blue or 2 minor for a 2nd power orbs. Still 6 to go after this but this is a good start, if we look 1 or 2 month behind, this would still be mission impossible Thanks for the vault buff again dev! ---
**Author:** ![rojo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/5f9b8f/32.png) [@rojo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/rojo)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2018, 7:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/152 "2018-05-26T19:15:34Z")
Lots of people are competitive so they do not want to see the same person win every time. That would be my guess. ---
**Author:** ![NowayJoe2Go](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nowayjoe2go/32/14045_2.png) [@NowayJoe2Go](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NowayJoe2Go)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 5:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/153 "2018-05-27T17:14:29Z")
OK, Iā€™ve used quite a few Vault keys. Iā€™m really not seeing much of a buff. The orbs are nice, but Iā€™ve received Growth orbs in both cases. More often, the BUFFS look like thisā€¦ ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/e/ee642b31e9a867f42443902fbd3ac20d21e7c812.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 5:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/154 "2018-05-27T17:19:14Z")
I got more lucky, i catched 1 major blue and 2 minor blue from vault ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:13pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/155 "2018-05-27T22:13:21Z")
beer lol ![COM-Bad-Frog-Header-1](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/7/972baaeb3e16a60d2afcae0f29fa505e3e920749.jpg) EDIT : oh that looks bad lolā€¦ the beer not the bird šŸ˜‡ ---
**Author:** ![Avathar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/avathar/32/33071_2.png) [@Avathar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Avathar)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/156 "2018-05-27T22:14:10Z")
In the end I opened 20 vault keys this weekend, rewards from cedric were: - 60k gold (x4) - Minor orb (x9) - Major orb - 20 gem keys - 2500 souls - 100 gems - 250 gems - 50 diamonds - Cedric Seems orbs are way more common, and everything else much rarerā€¦ And I got lucky getting the highest gem reward once! Still missing the pet gnome troop though ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2018, 10:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/157 "2018-05-27T22:17:13Z")
> [@Avathar](#): > > Still missing the pet gnome troop though I used 37 keys and Iā€™m also missing Pet Gnome. ---
**Author:** ![Fleg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5e9695/32.png) [@Fleg](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fleg)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 12:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/158 "2018-05-29T00:30:34Z")
> [@Sirrian](#): > > Roughly speaking, in the original version of the Vault, 3 Gnomes dropped X rewards, and Cedric dropped 4X _(algebra, not the beer - sorry - Australian humor)_ > That gave roughly _(on average)_ 7X worth of loot. > > After the change to Gnomes, Cedric remained at 4X, but the Gnomes got X/3 > That gave roughly _(on average)_ 5X worth of loot. > > So we needed a 50% buff to Cedricā€™s loot to bring it back in line with what we originally intended. > > In more real (and exact) terms, Cedricā€™s average loot value has risen from 205 Gems-worth to 292-Gems-worth. Obviously thatā€™s not exactly 50% increase, but as I mentioned above, those 'Xā€™s were illustrative rough values only. > [@Sirrian](#): > > **What does this mean in real terms of loot?** > > - Greater chances to get Cedric Perhaps you could recalculate the gem value of vault rewards after people get Cedric to Mythic? Each time he drops after mythic (15% of the time so far for me) itā€™s literally like only getting 100 souls. Please return Cedric to his rarer drop chance and boost the common gnome drops to x5 at a time to compensate. Itā€™s ridiculous that I now have LEGENDARY Cedric at Mythic buy only a few copies of the COMMON gnomes. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/159 "2018-05-29T10:49:14Z")
I think itā€™d be nice if they gave Cedric the Guild Guardian treatment: Mythic copy + 4 copies and itā€™ll stop showing up as a drop. People can then appreciate the improved frequency and at the same time eventually stop pulling extra. ---
**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 10:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/160 "2018-05-29T10:51:36Z")
+1 to this! Can we get that in 3.5? Edit: I would like this applied to _all_ Vault troops. When I spend a Major Orb of Ascension on Valraven, I donā€™t want to keep getting it! ---
**Author:** ![DEMONorANGEL](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/demonorangel/32/41260_2.png) [@DEMONorANGEL](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DEMONorANGEL)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2018, 12:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843/161 "2018-05-29T12:42:35Z")
should be done for all troops šŸ˜šŸ˜›šŸ˜œšŸ˜‹ [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-buff-to-vault-rewards/39843.md?page=7)