# A better Dungeon Shop offer **URL:** \ **Category:** Uncategorized\ **Created:** [October 7, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-better-dungeon-shop-offer/77273 "2022-10-07T22:44:41Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 10:44pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-better-dungeon-shop-offer/77273/1 "2022-10-07T22:44:41Z")
Because what is the point of offering 15 Diamonds for 100 Gems when there’s a 50-Gem offer providing SO MUCH more for so much less? I say get rid of the 100-Gem offer, I can only see one _very_ limited scenario where it could be a viable Gem purchase but even then, it’s still more cost-effective to just go craft 15 Diamonds in the Soulforge directly, than spend Gems. Instead, how about THIS for a 100-Gem dungeon offer: - You get to reset the dungeon and make a second run. Some of the obvious benefits: - If you had used a Descending Stairs, you can now make a new run at that increased reward level. - A second complete run means another set of 100+ colored Jewels and 20+ Diamonds in the battle rewards. I like to craft the weekly weapons whenever I can, but am CONSTANTLY running short of colored Jewels to do so (some more than others). - For Dragonite hunters specifically, this means a second chance at scoring a Perfect Run that day. Of course, unlike the 300-Gem offer, it’s not a guaranteed thing, the RNG is still calculated at 10%. ---
**Author:** ![Raistlin](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/raistlin/32/61294_2.png) [@Raistlin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Raistlin)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2022, 11:34pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-better-dungeon-shop-offer/77273/2 "2022-10-07T23:34:10Z")
Personally, I’d spend gems to peek behind a door. I’d never spend gems just to repeatedly get kicked in the shorts. ---
**Author:** ![Moriad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a87d85/32.png) [@Moriad](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Moriad)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 12:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-better-dungeon-shop-offer/77273/4 "2022-10-08T00:48:57Z")
Same here. But I’m not sure I’d even buy door peeks. Maybe 10 gems to reveal a trap. Spend gems for even _more_ RNG? Um… Never. Buying dragonite directly would be a far better deal. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 12:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-better-dungeon-shop-offer/77273/5 "2022-10-08T00:55:46Z")
I get the offer, even if I’ve never taken it (and probably never will). When I was GM there were many times players would be just _ **x** _ Gems short for a craft they really wanted or had heard was good – even with crafting Jewels or using Vault Keys or anything. And you know now with the massive and ever-increasing Soulforge rotation it’s a while before they appear again. I’d even heard people say they’d go for something like this – so it makes sense. I don’t know what the uptake numbers are so far, or will be long-term – maybe they’re too late with creating the offer, maybe it’s not doing well – but it’s fair to say it’s not really for late mid- or end-gamers who are more focused on longer-term strategies. Your idea is a better offer, though – similar Diamond output (although much more on Sundays) for the same cost, with additional chances for other things, however demotivating ¯⁠\⁠\_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠\_⁠/⁠¯. I probably wouldn’t take it, would maybe consider Sundays. ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2022, 1:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/a-better-dungeon-shop-offer/77273/6 "2022-10-08T01:16:55Z")
> [@Jonathan](#): > > When I was GM there were many times players would be just _ **x** _ Gems short for a craft they really wanted or had heard was good Sounds like precisely the situation I was thinking of prior to posting: there’s just a few hours left before the weekly reset and you are annoyingly JUST one or two materials short of whatever you want to craft – e.g. I really wanted to get Rope Dart at first sight, but couldn’t find the resources for it so I had to wait until Pridelands came back on rotation… But given I spend 350 Gems a week for the extra colored Jewels, I’m not exactly overflowing with funds for the more expensive offers. And depending on weapon colors, sometimes I just can’t acquire weapons in consecutive weeks. > [@Raistlin](#): > > Personally, I’d spend gems to peek behind a door. I hear ya. The biggest complaint is that the Dragonite payout is structured as “jackpot or zero”, and with a _90%_ rate of failure to get a Perfect Run it can be quite demoralizing. (Even _literal slot machines in actual casinos_ have higher win rates!) I would also love to see an offer that gives you a clue to the doors, but … I’m also familiar with Mineswepper or Sudoku so it can’t be a clue that outright gives away what the Perfect Run is. For example, if there was an offer to reveal where the Boon room is? Okay, but unfortunately it _doesn’t_ change your chances of a Perfect Run since the Boon room itself is irrelevant to a Perfect run. I was mulling over possibilities at work today, and hit upon this idea: - Since there are only two Traps, there must always be one column of doors which are _not_ Traps. So, make an offer that picks _two_ such doors and reveals them. Now will be either 1 or 2 doors away from a Perfect Run, but remember that with 2 traps in 4 doors you still have at least a 50% chance of stepping on a Trap.