# 8.0 Update: Immortals **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [July 10, 2024, 1:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610 "2024-07-10T01:00:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![ANGI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@ANGI](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ANGI)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 11:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/105 "2024-07-11T11:39:47Z")
zuul is a boss, can’t see that tag on immortals, you can also face cosmic dragons right now in explore ---
**Author:** ![Grundge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e99b99/32.png) [@Grundge](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundge)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 1:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/106 "2024-07-11T13:25:25Z")
Wow this is just terrible. Probably going to quit when this releases. It’s just too much. Another pass to pay for? Forget this nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 2:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/108 "2024-07-11T14:38:57Z")
these troops are much bigger than dragons. I’ll be wondering if they’re missing this part. Mode-related units shouldn’t appear in e12, that’s simple. ---
**Author:** ![DracoL1ch](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dracol1ch/32/75027_2.png) [@DracoL1ch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DracoL1ch)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/111 "2024-07-11T14:54:25Z")
There are only 1 immortal with looping ability, not buffled yet. ---
**Author:** ![CLARE](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/clare/32/68377_2.png) [@CLARE](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CLARE)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/116 "2024-07-11T15:12:08Z")
the pvp battles for purple will be so difficult that people will leave the Alliance 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Wolfchadren](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wolfchadren/32/99444_2.png) [@Wolfchadren](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wolfchadren)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 3:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/117 "2024-07-11T15:19:47Z")
They need to make these passes cheaper then or have less events. Another option is an overall pass and seperate passes. Though adding all those passes together should be more expensive then buying yhe overall pass. Even if they do this they already messed up to much for me to want to support this game anymore. Only staying for my guild otherwise would have stopped playing already. Maybe if they start fixing things that should have been QoL changes ages ago will supoort again but in it’s current state definitly not. Still salty about the insulting “synch compensation” as well. The devs are really out of touch with it’s playerbase. ---
**Author:** ![Fourdottwoone](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/fourdottwoone/32/66655_2.png) [@Fourdottwoone](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fourdottwoone)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 4:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/119 "2024-07-11T16:14:03Z")
> [@GANNICUS1](#): > > GW, ROFL, WHAT GW they never plan on returning gw in the first place, If gw was so important to the devs it would of been brought back already. Apparently they first had to make sure that GW feels rewarding enough for heavy money spenders. It looks like those Immortal troops will do the trick just fine, upgrading them to level 30 for extra powerful traits will likely take F2P player centuries (and those just paying for the pass decades). I believe GW will be back fast now. ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 6:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/120 "2024-07-11T18:12:17Z")
> [@ANGI](#): > > zuul is a boss, can’t see that tag on immortals, you can also face cosmic dragons right now in explore I believe Zuul can show up as the Mythic Boss in Karakoth Explore (likewise Ctharrasque in Hellcrag), but… > [@DracoL1ch](#): > > Mode-related units shouldn’t appear in e12, that’s simple. …technically, the event versions of Zuul and Ctharrasque are distinct Troops from their obtainable base versions. Six Mana Colors and Invulnerable vs. three colors and Impervious, etc. ---
**Author:** ![Theoden](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/50afbb/32.png) [@Theoden](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Theoden)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 6:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/121 "2024-07-11T18:29:20Z")
> [@Stratelier](#): > > I believe Zuul can show up as the Mythic Boss in Karakoth Explore (likewise Ctharrasque in Hellcrag) They can’t. When Explore in its current form was first introduced, Zuul could indeed appear as the boss in Karakoth explore. However, since the introduction of Enraged Kurandara, Boss troops no longer appear in Explore. ---
**Author:** ![Vold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/e56c9b/32.png) [@Vold](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vold)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 9:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/122 "2024-07-11T21:56:13Z")
> [@Beg](#): > > One day I wish I was in meeting about how they make these non-player friendly ideas. This never should have been implemented. Every one of those meetings is the same. It’s basically: ![8wnarq](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/5/4541912cd8610d7e03d9e53acbd9215db1555ab3.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Graeme](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/50afbb/32.png) [@Graeme](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Graeme)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/123 "2024-07-11T23:22:34Z")
Dude always pops up just before there is a new update (with a new account.) Spams the forums and gets banned. Rinse and repeat. _Edit_ Suspended again already 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![ESR77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6bbea6/32.png) [@ESR77](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ESR77)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 2:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/124 "2024-07-12T02:21:03Z")
> [@Vold](#): > > Its like the devs are intentionally trying drive away the player base and tank the game. A lot of people believe this has been going on for quite a while now. ---
**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 3:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/125 "2024-07-12T03:56:07Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Probably also has the idea that Gems of War isn’t pay to win because you can eventually get all of this stuff for free anyways! “free” I definitely understand your perspective, but coming from kingdom builder apps where “P2W” means people 100 times your level/power obliterating your kingdom and plundering all your resources every other day because they have seemingly unlimited money in their banks accounts… GoW is incredibly tame by comparison 😂 In those games, high-paying players compete on an entirely different level which F2P players could never hope to achieve. In GoW, a F2P player can regularly win against players who have spent thousands. There’s very little direct competition in GoW outside of leaderboards (which display who has the most time and/or money to spend), and even in direct competition like GW (RIP), you never _lose_ anything. You may miss out on some rewards, sure, but you don’t lose all your dang stone and wood like in those stupid kingdom builders! 😂 Worst case scenario, some dude who spent $1000 on x4 Stellarix beats your defense team in GW and his guild outranks yours in the bracket, winning 50 gems or whatever more than you. Good for him, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 4:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/126 "2024-07-12T04:13:32Z")
> [@Theoden](#): > > When Explore in its current form was first introduced, Zuul could indeed appear as the boss in Karakoth explore. However, since the introduction of Enraged Kurandara, Boss troops no longer appear in Explore. Interesting. I’m convinced it _happened_ (and that I even took a screenshot of it) but that doesn’t mean anything unless it was recent (and it definitely was not) … Explore is probably third place for which game mode I play the least. ---
**Author:** ![Kezef](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Kezef](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kezef)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2024, 11:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/127 "2024-07-12T11:55:49Z")
> [@ESR77](#): > > > [@Vold](#): > > > > Its like the devs are intentionally trying drive away the player base and tank the game. > > A lot of people believe this has been going on for quite a while now. It wouldn’t be very difficult for them to simply shut the game down with little-to-no notice, to take the money they’ve already accumulated and run. There are roughly one gazillion mobile games that have done exactly that, even if most of them haven’t been around as long as Gems of War. The developers are _evolving_ the game, even if few of us agree with the directions in which they’re taking said game. And they’re clearly trying to keep the money train rolling. You may believe otherwise, but people are prone to believe all sorts of things that bear little resemblance to reality. ---
**Author:** ![Courtaud](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/courtaud/32/20160_2.png) [@Courtaud](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Courtaud)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 10:37am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/129 "2024-07-13T10:37:55Z")
What you’re saying is, GW are dead in the water. ---
**Author:** ![STUB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stub/32/74879_2.png) [@STUB](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/STUB)\ **Post date:** [July 13, 2024, 10:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/130 "2024-07-13T10:55:59Z")
I think what he is trying to say is GW will be brought back to encourage people to spend money on the new immortals. But my guess is they will probably wait to gauge which players are spending money first. ---
**Author:** ![Zuul-Emo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/67e7ee/32.png) [@Zuul-Emo](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zuul-Emo)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 2:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/131 "2024-07-14T02:56:01Z")
Just spotted this in the new sneak peek video. Gives some idea what the scaling is like: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/f/6/f65881315264891b07e08ec47f4f27ca5d45cfa3.jpeg) Also saw that 4 of the immortal levels are just for the pet and 10 are just for the weapon: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/7/57bc245c66e793e37cd785f2b341885986c6977d.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/0/801701c79ffd0656b89e7e23589331a774a9bdc8.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/6/06b7649e431204fb7b70adcfb50dde228a9cf470.jpeg) Seems like a lot of levels spent on other power-ups. And a preview of what the goals look like, and what they could be requiring: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/b/abb5725e41f9321553ed4694532a4aaa5f14d4df.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/5/0/50a04f1c399fd495678d0208f5806a1c3661d01c.jpeg) ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/c/3/c322fbbc54e09874cc142a2f9ea704d5515bb6a3.jpeg) And there’s gonna be 9 of them, each season. And an exact figure for the season goals, of 2k per goal level and 180k overall: ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/e/6/e65ad10a15d3e4616309b7105df19a54f653f2cd.jpeg) So, that’s something, I guess. At least we know more stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Darkborne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/darkborne/32/95796_2.png) [@Darkborne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Darkborne)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 3:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/132 "2024-07-14T03:20:14Z")
I broke down the total number of burning marks that can be earned in a pvp season from the video: You can open 1 burning chest with 10 burning marks. Free pass: 20×9=180–18 chests Paid pass: 50×9= 450–45 chests Season Goals: 60×9= 540–54 chests If you pay for the pass, you will be able to open 45 more chests. We don’t know the percentages for the random drops from burning chests, but we will probably start a thread on that. I’m guessing that the rarity of drops will be in this order: silver/gold marks\>\>bronze/silver/gold icons\>\>immortal souls. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [July 14, 2024, 5:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610/133 "2024-07-14T05:19:21Z")
Somehow, I’m not the most pitchforky person for this update, since this could have been good in theory. However in reality, seeing numbers like that, they’re so stingy on how many chests they give out that this feature is doomed to be underwhelming. Kinda exactly like Shiny Chests. Things like farming 800k VP every 77 days. Who checks their numbers? [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610.md?page=5) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/8-0-update-immortals/84610.md?page=7)