# 7.3 Update: Battlegrounds **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [December 7, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416 "2023-12-07T17:30:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Kabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@Kabal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kabal)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 9:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/81 "2023-12-10T21:12:18Z")
Upto epic weapons as a choice. Would be ideal We’d get. Exp. Class points. That’s the main issue for me, yes rewards are awful, but if we’re all completely honest. Apart from journey for the books. Every event reward can be got from a vault key, so events don’t matter. Unless your an addict for shiny keys 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![STUB](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stub/32/74879_2.png) [@STUB](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/STUB)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 9:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/82 "2023-12-10T21:46:53Z")
I like the concept of arena and they (devs) say that its for new gamers which is fair enough, but if it is for new gamers why dont they allow mythics and fully unlocked classes to entice gamers into playing more… ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2023, 11:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/83 "2023-12-10T23:54:01Z")
> [@STUB](#): > > Spoiler \*\*\*\* The terror status effect is attached to the troops from the new kingdom introduced on the 18th, so it will be usable in all aspects of the game. Lycanthropy was attached primarily to Troops from its campaign, Wildcards to its Campaign, Elemental Stars (Nexus), Gargoyle Gems (Hellcrag), Bomb Gems, Giant Gems … yeah, nothing new to see here! > [@Kabal](#): > > Each level your hero increases. > Increases your GPH by one gold per hour. > > That’s factual, don’t be a troll. Okay, but when/where did you first find this claim? If we can’t corroborate evidence, we have to conclude the original claim is sus. ---
**Author:** ![Schaafy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Schaafy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schaafy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/85 "2023-12-11T00:05:50Z")
Ill never understand peoples obsession over the gold per hour stat… you can literally earn more gold in one 30 second battle than you would in an hour. I can understand that it should be listed in the game somewhere, but its really making a mountain out of a molehill. There are many more important things that should be getting attention, such as the latest weekly update post lol. ---
**Author:** ![Kabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@Kabal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kabal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/86 "2023-12-11T00:10:27Z")
It’s not that . What it is is, your GPH relates to: Hero level Kingdom level Kingdom power Pet levels. It shows how much you’ve completed by it’s level, the higher it is the more you’ve done. It was how we kept score were we were as a guild. I don’t know why you all have this massive problem in this forum, to be argumentative and condescending. You all cry over the littlest things, then disregard what others want. It’s a pure cesspool if the worst people of society. I don’t need a reply. Or an accusation of something. Iv asked the game employees for something back. Not players that mean nothing in real life to this game. Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Schaafy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Schaafy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schaafy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/89 "2023-12-11T00:13:56Z")
ok, just because you / your group use it as a metric of progress doesn’t make it the most important thing in the game. I agreed saying it SHOULD be in the game somewhere, seeing as it used to be. Overall this stat is incredibly unimportant for 95+% of players and for those that it IS important it CAN be calculated from the daily gold stat with a simple calculation, but ive seen people would rather complain. Being this argumentative is sure to get you the outcome you seek though /s ---
**Author:** ![Kabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@Kabal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kabal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/90 "2023-12-11T00:16:16Z")
Would you like to copy and paste we’re I said it’s the most important thing in the game lmfao. Sorry as your the ruler of the forum, can we only mention one important thing and nothing else. Ok God. Let the forum know, what the one thing we can all mention is. So we don’t break your rules. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![Kabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@Kabal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kabal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/91 "2023-12-11T00:18:18Z")
You’ve also just spoke for 95% if the player base. As your God, I’m sure you speak to them all with mind control. And if you don’t, then please only speak for yourself, unless your the shepherd and the 95% are your sheep Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![Kabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@Kabal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kabal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/93 "2023-12-11T00:24:55Z")
Is swearing allowed on this forum , 1st of all. Secondly, how do we know it still happens at his higher level. Just saying. It happens at my level. ---
**Author:** ![Kabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@Kabal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kabal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/94 "2023-12-11T00:26:04Z")
Iv flagged you for swearing. Just so you know. As I’d like to know if it’s allowed here. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/95 "2023-12-11T00:26:53Z")
How about this: Click on any Kingdom and select “Kingdom Info”. This little-known backwater alley of a screen still shows your total Gold Per Day from all Kingdoms (which in my case is +25965 /day or ~1,081 /hour). I’m currently Hero Level 1,237 (+50% to next level), so … see you when I crest Lv.1238 or 1240 or whenever? In the meantime, now that I logged in for the day let’s see what I get: > **Income collection at 4:12PM** > > - 15195 total Gold collected > - 574 from Home Kingdom > - 12070 from 36 other Kingdoms > - 2551 from 8 Tributes (itemized: 86+477+159+318+636+159+159+557) > - Total: 12070+574+2551 = 15195 > - All income accounted for / no discrepancies ---
**Author:** ![Schaafy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Schaafy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schaafy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/97 "2023-12-11T00:33:11Z")
you made a claim that your level influences your gold per hour, and that that is why it was important to show. A user gave proof of the same player at different levels with the same gold per hour. This makes your claim false. Ignoring evidence does not make it go away, so please stop trolling. You are just looking for things to complain about, and you have come to a forum to do it. The whole point of a forum is so that the community can chime in, if you want to speak directly to the devs, then i suggest sticking to support tickets. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/100 "2023-12-11T00:38:08Z")
I’m not a dev but I’ve played more hours in Gems of War than all the devs combined. Can’t get the bottom number just be divided by 24 to see current GPH? ![Screenshot_20231210_183657](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/8/48030a259075454a470937f3aac2f6ab88501e43.jpeg) So like my current GPH would be 3,011? ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jerry_the_skunk/32/53897_2.png) [@Jerry\_the\_skunk](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jerry_the_skunk)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/101 "2023-12-11T00:39:26Z")
Don’t feed the troll, when there’s a practical block button right at hand. This is leading nowhere. ---
**Author:** ![Kabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@Kabal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kabal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/104 "2023-12-11T00:49:29Z")
![IMG_20231211_004747_HDR](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/5/05d55662e12afca0697cf325b0707c9adba68ad0.jpeg) Just over 2 years put into the game, as I play it a damn lot. Not to far behind you. I’m a real player not a troll. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/105 "2023-12-11T00:52:56Z")
> [@Kabal](#): > > Not to far behind you. It sounds like Gold Per Day is the new way to compare play then or GPD instead of GPH. Glad this came to a peaceful resolution. ---
**Author:** ![Kabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ee59a6/32.png) [@Kabal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kabal)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/107 "2023-12-11T00:58:49Z")
![IMG_20231211_005724_HDR](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/f/9f51ccc8e2a1053e0d18c3e966c13ff16f83acba.jpeg) ![IMG_20231211_005733_HDR](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/9/096f39a0634164c6a52170a14edd6a2cde975879.jpeg) I think I’m doing pretty good, for just over 2 years play time. ---
**Author:** ![Stratelier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/977dab/32.png) [@Stratelier](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stratelier)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 1:01am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/108 "2023-12-11T01:01:50Z")
> [@Schaafy](#): > > A user gave proof of the same player at different levels with the same gold per hour. Eh, I don’t actually have a second data point to compare it by (yet). Oh, wait, a full hour has since passed so let me edit it in: > **Income collection at 5:12PM** > > Total collection: +4088 Gold > > - 49 Gold from Home Kingdom > - 1010 Gold from Other Kingdoms > - 3029 from 11 Tributes (itemized: 636+86+159+80+398+159+159+318+159+716+159) > - Total: 49+1010+3029 = 4088 Gold > - All income accounted for / no discrepancies > > But, since this IS a second point let’s go further: > > - Previous income collection was 4:11PM > - Current income collection is 5:12PM aka. 61 minutes (aka ASAP) > - 1059 income (ignoring tributes) collected / 61 minutes = 1,041 Gold Per Hour or ~25,000 Gold Per Day > - Discrepancy of 41 GPH (or 965 GPD) unaccounted for > > Notably, my income collection here was actually somewhat LESS than my stated GPD, not more (which could reasonably be expected _if_ Hero Level affects GPD). > > Tentative conclusion (pending deeper analysis): _Hero Level does not impact GPD._ @Kabal, nobody _disagrees_ about having “Gold per hour” shown somewhere that’s easy to find. The only dispute here is that you labeled a claim a capital-F “fact”. Now _I_ don’t believe it’s the case, but I _am_ willing to entertain a few experiments to test it by, because with careful observation and analysis we should be able to suss out what’s actually going on under the hood. For example, when you collect hourly income, is the basic income rounded down to _whole hours_ or is it based on raw time (including minutes/seconds)? E.g. if it’s been 1h05m or 1h25m since my last income collection, do I collect the same or different amount of gold? Because that’s _precisely_ the kind of “confounding factor” that might lead you to a wrong conclusion if you aren’t controlling for it in your tests/observations. ---
**Author:** ![Schaafy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Schaafy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schaafy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 1:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/109 "2023-12-11T01:04:28Z")
they were talking specifically about the gold per hour stat that would show under the total gold collected, not the amount you collect upon collecting tributes. They were saying that that stat would increase when you gain a level, among other things. The pictures posted by noob prove that is not the case. ---
**Author:** ![Schaafy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Schaafy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schaafy)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2023, 1:12am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/7-3-update-battlegrounds/82416/112 "2023-12-11T01:12:25Z")
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