# 6.6 Update: Lost Souls of Carmina **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [October 20, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444 "2022-10-20T23:26:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![canadademon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@canadademon](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/canadademon)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 2:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/22 "2022-10-21T02:38:28Z")
> [@Kezef](#): > > To those of us who have been playing for a while, Orbs of Power are pretty common and pretty useless if you’ve crafted the troops that require them already. Speak for yourself, whippersnapper 😉 I only got one or two of those white orbs floatin around. ---
**Author:** ![Jeto](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jeto/32/101682_2.png) [@Jeto](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jeto)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 2:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/23 "2022-10-21T02:58:11Z")
For anyone else who has peeped at the new Zhul Kingdom art - it isn’t a bug > [@\[Not a bug\] Unintentional Sneak Peek?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/unintentional-sneak-peek/77447/2): > > Hello! This is a little sneak peek, we have updated the background art because the old one was a bit off but this is in preparation for the next Legends Reborn event, coming in the next few months - so keep your eyes out! A little bit more of a teaser is part of that update we will also be reworking the storyline (Tyri is staying!) and reworking since underpowered Troops from that Kingdom. Jeto (she/they) - Support Human woman_mage:t2 ---
**Author:** ![NerdieBirdie](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nerdiebirdie/32/103793_2.png) [@NerdieBirdie](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/NerdieBirdie)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/26 "2022-10-21T03:14:36Z")
No, it just means the animation of the first door opening must finish before the player can open the second door. ---
**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/28 "2022-10-21T03:24:59Z")
What we really need is to be able to target a specific dragon Boss in this update. Unfortunately no solution in this update and the suffering continues with duplicates. ---
**Author:** ![danac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ab097/32.png) [@danac](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/danac)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 3:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/29 "2022-10-21T03:27:49Z")
> [@WhoDat](#): > > Unfortunately no solution in this update and the suffering continues with duplicates. i have 4 dragons and 1 repeat. i have since joined the long list of ppl who refuse to buy any dragonite until the dragon egg situation is resolved. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/captainawesome/32/74890_2.png) [@CaptainAwesome](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainAwesome)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:08am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/31 "2022-10-21T04:08:16Z")
You really expect this to ever happen? 🤣 🤣 🤣 ![grafik](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/f/0f5eea2ddd1ff17b8c4008d298ad7409a2fbc94b.png) The game was howering between 1700 and 1800 average player during Dec 19 till Dec 21. Since the release of elemage it’s continously falling down to an all time low of ~1500 player since almost 3 years. ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/32 "2022-10-21T04:16:29Z")
> [@CaptainAwesome](#): > > The game was howering between 1700 and 1800 average player during Dec 19 till Dec 21. Since the release of elemage it’s continously falling down to an all time low of ~1500 player since almost 3 years. How does this compare to other similar games over the same time period? All I see here is a bump during the pandemic, where we have now returned to basically the same levels as before everyone was working from home /remote from school for 2-3 years. Oct 2022 and Oct 2019 shows no net change at all. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/captainawesome/32/74890_2.png) [@CaptainAwesome](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainAwesome)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/33 "2022-10-21T04:20:22Z")
> [@beeflog](#): > > How does this compare to other similar games over the same time period? Go on and compare it with other games similar to GoW. Or to any other game. It doesnt matter which one you pick. In most cases the player count increases for other games. Not for GoW. It has nothing to do with the pandemic. And now ask yourself why this happens… ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/34 "2022-10-21T04:24:04Z")
I don’t know what the source of the data is. You’re making a claim, I’m trying to see if the claim is justified. Can you give an example of a mobile game running since at least 2015 to today where the number of players is higher now than it was in 2019? if “it doesn’t matter which one you pick,” as you claim, it should be easy to provide? ---
**Author:** ![CaptainAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/captainawesome/32/74890_2.png) [@CaptainAwesome](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainAwesome)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/35 "2022-10-21T04:28:16Z")
> **[Steam Charts - Tracking What's Played](https://steamcharts.com/)** > > An ongoing analysis of Steam's player numbers, seeing what's been played the most. Have a look for yourself. I don’t play many games especially none that are compareable to GoW. Maybe you know some of them. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/36 "2022-10-21T04:31:47Z")
> [@Zadr053](#): > > Is my memory playing a trick on me or the Zhul’Kari art was updated? Is that a bug? > > ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/3/7/371c1f6346c03d73b8c9fd437a8b4ff9825b04f5.jpeg) here’s a comparison pic before this gets lost in time: ![Gems of War (15)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/4/0/405b9b17463325183590d9a506292744baaf2f70.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/37 "2022-10-21T04:38:09Z")
so… you can’t actually back up your claim that something special is happening to Gems of War that isn’t also happening to any other 8+ year old mobile game. Here is a similar game I used to play, Marvel Puzzle Quest. Seems basically identical to the GoW chart you posted above. Huge boost in early 2020, then ups and downs with overall steady decline since then, and returned now to basically the same place (within 10%) of where it was 3 years ago ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/6/a/6af2f147937518ca6b06b0d6401b486b8e794b71.png) ---
**Author:** ![CaptainAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/captainawesome/32/74890_2.png) [@CaptainAwesome](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainAwesome)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/38 "2022-10-21T04:48:12Z")
As you can see in your example the player count used to be pretty much the same over the whole time and has not grown significantly like GoW did during the pandemic. Usually if the player base has increased by 20% it only decreases if there is a newer version/similar (but better) game on the market or the devs keep ignoring the community like it is happening for too long here. Your game hasn’t got the benefits due to the pandemic obviously and that shows pretty much that my claim is correct. So actually you gave yourself the back up for my claim… ---
**Author:** ![beeflog](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/beeflog/32/61703_2.png) [@beeflog](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/beeflog)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/39 "2022-10-21T04:51:32Z")
This is so far off topic at this point, I won’t reply further, but you’ve cut off the “% change” column from your screen shot. The monthly changes in our charts are basically identical. We’re looking at Steam users for a mobile game, which is already dubious. I can tell I’m not going to convince you using data or logic. If you’re unhappy with Gems of War, stop playing, stop posting on the forums, get a new hobby. You’ll be happier in the long run, I’m sure. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/40 "2022-10-21T04:53:30Z")
> [@danac](#): > > i have 4 dragons and 1 repeat. Honestly, you’ve done pretty well – that’s probably not the kind of example indicating an issue (yet – when the repeats start to stack up as your odds of getting a unique Dragon decrease, I’m sure it will get bad). The people who already have e.g. 6 Dragons, 5 of them repeats, are the ones really suffering at the moment. I agree about being unsatisfied with the current situation, though. ---
**Author:** ![WhoDat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/whodat/32/63679_2.png) [@WhoDat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/WhoDat)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 4:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/41 "2022-10-21T04:55:08Z")
Yes, I can wait but for how long? that is the question. ---
**Author:** ![CaptainAwesome](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/captainawesome/32/74890_2.png) [@CaptainAwesome](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CaptainAwesome)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 5:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/42 "2022-10-21T05:13:53Z")
Just to give you the percentages you are looking for: ![grafik](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/2/82870a9b3218c8439f7b2bceddb97dd75adfe5cb.png) And now lets compare those percentages: GoW: -5,47% since September 21 Your Game: -0,7% since September 21 GoW: -10,42% since September 20 Your Game: -2,11% since September 20 Now tell me again my logic is false… ---
**Author:** ![Julli-of-North](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/julli-of-north/32/91083_2.png) [@Julli-of-North](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Julli-of-North)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 5:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/43 "2022-10-21T05:20:25Z")
> [@Jeto](#): > > The New Legendary Troop will go into chests 4-5 weeks after the Holiday Event ends. Or 4-6 weeks after this period. After few players bug the devs long enough. And after big enough community influencer gets involved. ---
**Author:** ![Kafka](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kafka/32/33529_2.png) [@Kafka](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kafka)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 5:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/44 "2022-10-21T05:38:28Z")
Can you see it yet? I just checked the Australian and US stores for Xbox and it appears the update is available. If you’re still having trouble let me know. > [@Emos](#): > > Having an issue with the screen resolution display on iPad - I cannot access the settings cog in the battle screen so I’m not able to view surge stats and retreat. Plain as day on the iPhone though. I’m looking into this. ---
**Author:** ![Taisiakat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taisiakat/32/75810_2.png) [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2022, 5:41am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444/45 "2022-10-21T05:41:55Z")
Question: has anyone else noticed on Android the red flash in the background between battles (of the Kingdom Map) with this update? [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/6-6-update-lost-souls-of-carmina/77444.md?page=3)