# 500 faction team delve needs to be fixed **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [May 12, 2020, 8:39am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473 "2020-05-12T08:39:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 5:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/41 "2020-05-20T17:56:49Z")
> [@Thevc](#): > > When I say I can afford the gems more than I can afford the gold (plus treasures) it doesn’t mean I am swimming in gems. Generally I have a stash that fluctuates between 2 and 5k but I build up a sufficient amount to kill off a new faction each time one is released. I have done only one 24 hour event to completion and it was torture…no fun whatsoever but a sense of relief to get it out of the way. Similarly, I can’t afford to go down the “minimum fight route” because I need to bag ravens to make it viable. I only shortcut at 300 and above. This is the only way I can do it without spending cash on gems. I am VIP 1…Nuff said lol Yep, this is it, lower gem standing accounts can’t afford the flip through route, without spending way too much on the event, gems, time, patience, sanity etc! It’s why I can’t/won’t. We are so long overdue a change to the time these events take, it’s not even funny, but there’s no response to hails… ---
**Author:** ![The\_Freak](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/the_freak/32/32738_2.png) [@The\_Freak](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/The_Freak)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 7:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/42 "2020-05-20T19:37:35Z")
> [@Shimrra](#): > > Wait, 2% think this is a fun challenge? Something’s terribly wrong here, it should be way less than that. 0.002% Corrected 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2020, 7:46pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/43 "2020-05-20T19:46:16Z")
Yes…agreed. it’s the time and abject tedium that has killed the appeal of factions from the outset. Some are borderline impossible outside of potion fuelled eventing. The community have been unanimous in their condemnation of this abusive game mode. A year plus and nada, zero, zilch has been done to downsize this huge issue. ---
**Author:** ![Vinya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/97f17d/32.png) [@Vinya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Vinya)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 8:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/44 "2020-05-21T08:34:59Z")
Please devs, do not touch delves, they are hard, and that’s good ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jonathan/32/66724_2.png) [@Jonathan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jonathan)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 8:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/45 "2020-05-21T08:52:51Z")
> [@Vinya](#): > > do not touch delves, they are hard, and that’s good Can you give more context for this? (For example, when you say ‘delves’, do you mean Faction teams, non-Faction teams, or both? Do you mean level 500, level 200, or some other? Does this include all current Factions?) Also, does the requirement of reaching max renown in a Faction to earn a level 20 pet for (certain) Kingdom power levels weigh in to your opinion? ---
**Author:** ![Schu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Schu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schu)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 11:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/46 "2020-05-21T11:11:41Z")
For me, the delves have a balanced difficulty. Can be really easy with potions or high hoard and kingdom’s bonus. So many people like me have 2500 in every single delve. If we did it, i dont understand why other people cant do this. If a people are really interested to finish the delves,he have a lot of solutions for complete all delves. I dont understand why the people want all without play, have no sense. And if they did the delves more easy would not be correct for people who have already finished them. ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 11:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/47 "2020-05-21T11:33:30Z")
Your solution is to fill the devs pockets with gems and cash and tie yourself to your platform for the duration of the event. EDIT Which means you probably don’t have a job or a life. That doesn’t make “sense” (as you quote) to most people who have real life obligations. ---
**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 11:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/48 "2020-05-21T11:58:27Z")
> [@Schu](#): > > Can be really easy with potions > [@4.3 Update (Patch Notes)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-3-update-patch-notes/53514/1): > > Please Note – although these potions may help with tougher Faction Delve levels. they are not intended to be the system we’ve hinted at for dealing with Faction Team difficulty on higher levels _(we have something planned for this later this year)_ Still relevant ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 1:18pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/49 "2020-05-21T13:18:03Z")
And still unaddressed. Embarrassing. ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 1:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/50 "2020-05-21T13:24:11Z")
Crypt keepers is doable at 100. It’s a pure luck faction. You are at the mercy of lady M. Horde level is irrelevant ---
**Author:** ![Lyrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyrian/32/61071_2.png) [@Lyrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyrian)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 1:35pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/51 "2020-05-21T13:35:55Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > Still relevant I hate to be the bearer of bad news on this one, but the devs did fulfill the quoted promise. Look at the date of the patch, and what has come after that point. The “intended system” for assisting with higher level delves was the release of the deed system and the increase of kingdom levels to 15, bringing 50% faction hoard bonuses. Just be sure, I looked this up… > [@4.5 Update Patch Notes](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-5-update-patch-notes/57370): > > Originally published at: [https://gemsofwar.com/4-5-update/](https://gemsofwar.com/4-5-update/) Kingdom Progression [](https://gemsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/kingdom_progress.jpg)[[image]](https://gemsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/kingdom_progress.jpg)[](https://gemsofwar.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/kingdom_progress.jpg) Previously Kingdoms would unlock by level which had several unfortunate side effects for new players. To address these issues, we have changed how Kingdom Progress works. Rather than becoming available when your Hero reaches a certain level, Kingdoms will now unlock in small groups whose main quest lines must be completed before the next group unlocks. The gold cost for unlocking a Kin… … and yes, deeds did come later in the year, just as the devs promised. Your point may still be valid in general, but that’s not the droid we are looking for. ---
**Author:** ![Schu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Schu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schu)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 1:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/53 "2020-05-21T13:58:59Z")
You can easy dont try the delves, and stop to cry in every single post in the forum. yeah you have a life, but you write every day in the forum, strange thing and a little bit ipocryt ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 3:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/54 "2020-05-21T15:17:10Z")
No skill. Okay…thanks. that’s as nefarious as every BS comment you make. You are the man…I bow down in subtitude rofl EDIT BTW I am doom floor 50 unbeaten and all ravens killed. I shared my team. Yours I guarantee is much worse cos ur skill is deluded ---
**Author:** ![Schu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Schu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schu)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/56 "2020-05-21T18:32:13Z")
And i didnt post my team in the forum because i havent time like you to spend in the forum because i have a life and a job. It is really funny, you said all people who already have alls delves have zero life or job, when you doesnt know how many time need to do all. This was really disrespectful for the passion who have some people for this game. But you become mad when i said “you must learn to play”? Only you can be zero respect for the other people? BTW have a nice day! ---
**Author:** ![Thevc](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Thevc](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Thevc)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 6:32pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/57 "2020-05-21T18:32:25Z")
Oh jeez. You’re one of those hubristic players. There is no way you are doing what you said you do in 2 hours per day. It’s irrelevant absorbing your sentiments cos they are based on falsehood rofl. ---
**Author:** ![Schu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@Schu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Schu)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/58 "2020-05-21T18:36:11Z")
Thats it is your opinion. Probably you dont know if you go in general menu, you can set the animation speed to 4x. Try it! It is really more fast. ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 6:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/59 "2020-05-21T18:36:32Z")
Someone lock this already. ---
**Author:** ![Smash](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/smash/32/5574_2.png) [@Smash](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Smash)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 10:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/69 "2020-05-21T22:17:12Z")
iirc, the devs have said that the hoards werent the full solution either, mainly because they are gated so hard behind the low frequency rate of deeds. ---
**Author:** ![Texugo-928](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@Texugo-928](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Texugo-928)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 10:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/73 "2020-05-21T22:52:07Z")
If someone are interested. It isn’t optimized but u can take it as a expectative. https://www.youtube.com/embed/videoseries?list=PL--AbGesk0jVpUQlCf3lftB0DPvKFTs_M&wmode=transparent&rel=0&autohide=1&showinfo=1&enablejsapi=1 \*Dungeon: ~2min \*Adventure Board: ~6min \*Daily Delve: ~11min \*PvP (Tier XV to Tier I): ~25min \*Pet Rescue: ~7min \*Faction Event (Tier II): ~1h \*Faction Event (5x Tier VII) Perfect Run [Tesla+Lyrasza Team]: ~ \*Faction Event Boss Rush Run [Tesla+Lyrasza Team] (3 Rooms Main Path): ~1h36min \*Faction Event (3x Tier VII) Perfect Run [Tesla+St. Astra Team]: ~4h30min \*Faction Event Boss Rush Run [Tesla+St. Astra Team] (5 Rooms Main Path): ~3h30min \*Class Event (No Gems Spent): ~16min {Some class events doesn’t have troops that deal damage to all enemies so the time that i did is a good one} \*Class Event (4x Tier VII): ~2h49min \*Explore (One Cycle Run): ~19min \*Tower of Doom [ToD] (Tier VI + 7 Daily Sigils): ~3h20min {Expect more time, because i was helped by boons on weekend} \*Tower of Doom [ToD] (Daily Sigils): ~20min \*Invasion (Tier VI + 7 Daily Sigils): ~1h26min \*Invasion (Daily Sigils): ~10min \*Raid Boss (Tier VI + 7 Daily Sigils): ~2h19min \*Raid Boss (Daily Sigils): ~9min \*Bounty (All Rewards - Most Expensive Way): ~1h21min ---
**Author:** ![Texugo-928](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@Texugo-928](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Texugo-928)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2020, 10:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/500-faction-team-delve-needs-to-be-fixed/63473/74 "2020-05-21T22:58:00Z")
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