# 4.6.5 Update Patch Notes **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [November 12, 2019, 11:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156 "2019-11-12T23:00:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 10:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/21 "2019-11-13T10:02:40Z")
Most status effects have their tooltips when you click on the troops that inflict them ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/8/8/88fee61faf6691bb13044f4208e0b7ef4d087b46.jpeg) For further details you need to ask other experienced players or test them yourself as they are not documented anywhere For other general in game info you can click on the question mark usually located in the top left corner ![image](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/b/9/b9915e9e66a57b68912d9d4711d6a54a1d78bf97.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 11:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/22 "2019-11-13T11:46:53Z")
> [@TheIdleOne](#): > > things and stuff. useful stuff, hope it doesn’t break anything in the process though.’’ It broke guild guardians. 🤦 ---
**Author:** ![Rev0emag](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/rev0emag/32/50131_2.png) [@Rev0emag](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rev0emag)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 11:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/23 "2019-11-13T11:51:27Z")
What would a GoW update be without something going wrong… I just hope its a bug and not an intended action 🤞 ---
**Author:** ![Stix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/edb3f5/32.png) [@Stix](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stix)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 12:04pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/24 "2019-11-13T12:04:58Z")
Reflect must have been added in the last 24 hours. And yes, those kind of details. Or like what level a summoned or transformed troop becomes. That kind of stuff should not be trial and error, nor require dredging through the forums. The pages you get through the question marks rarely answer these kind of questions. The extract you show for example does not tell you what the percentages or multiplier next to a room in a delve mean. ---
**Author:** ![Rockwell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c0e974/32.png) [@Rockwell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rockwell)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 12:19pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/25 "2019-11-13T12:19:30Z")
> [@killscreen](#): > > Can we get the patch notes reposted in a readable format, please? The formatting appeared fine until I clicked the “View full post” button, then all the line breaks disappeared! ---
**Author:** ![Trulydaffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@Trulydaffy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trulydaffy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 12:58pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/26 "2019-11-13T12:58:16Z")
Think it broke the delves as well my hoard bonuses aren’t applying ---
**Author:** ![Voq](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/voq/32/54089_2.png) [@Voq](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Voq)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 1:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/27 "2019-11-13T13:05:02Z")
I did a single room in the Warrens and my bonuses applied, so it seems to be working on my end. What faction? ---
**Author:** ![Trulydaffy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee7513/32.png) [@Trulydaffy](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Trulydaffy)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 1:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/28 "2019-11-13T13:08:20Z")
Crypt I’m on switch might be my end I’ll restart. Edit restart fixed it don’t know why the first restart didn’t ---
**Author:** ![noob](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/noob/32/54823_2.png) [@noob](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/noob)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2019, 3:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/29 "2019-11-13T15:51:30Z")
Well you asked about treasure percentages so i showed you that screenshot You want a wiki like page which essentially already exists in the form of Game guides albeit not very detailed. Your best bet is to ask the devs to improve their guides but im afraid they dont have a deep enough understanding of game mechanics to go over every single situation ---
**Author:** ![Taruin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a8b319/32.png) [@Taruin](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taruin)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/30 "2019-11-14T22:25:43Z")
> [@Fleg](#): > > Some good QoL changes there. Hopefully next on your “To Do” list is removing some of the clicks necessary for an explore run. Yes, please accomplish this by increasing nysha drop rate to something remotely reasonable so we are not forced to do so many explore runs in the first place… Oh yeah, and maybe someone can explain why fighting an AI team at lvl150 (level 12 explore) only nets 1 hero class xp? ---
**Author:** ![xolid99](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/xolid99/32/66856_2.png) [@xolid99](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/xolid99)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 12:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/31 "2019-11-15T00:00:34Z")
> [@Taruin](#): > > Yes, please accomplish this by increasing nysha drop rate to something remotely reasonable so we are not forced to do so many explore runs in the first place… > > Oh yeah, and maybe someone can explain why fighting an AI team at lvl150 (level 12 explore) only nets 1 hero class xp? Good idea re the drop rates and also we should get guaranteed 3 medals for Explore 12 and not 2 with a chance of 3. I had 8 x 2’s in a row today in the 10 games I played. Triple lock RNG, RNG if you get enough Mythstones, RNG if you get 2 or 3 tokens and RNG to what you actually get… Couldn’t make it up… ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 12:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/32 "2019-11-15T00:16:42Z")
It would be nice to be able to fully kit out a Mythic troop sometime in 2020 or even 2021 but I just don’t see it happening at this rate? ---
**Author:** ![Macawi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/macawi/32/21289_2.png) [@Macawi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Macawi)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 1:24am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/33 "2019-11-15T01:24:54Z")
I think we’ll die of old age first. 😂 ---
**Author:** ![Taisiakat](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taisiakat/32/75810_2.png) [@Taisiakat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Taisiakat)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2019, 1:40am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/34 "2019-11-15T01:40:46Z")
Thank you for the patch update ---
**Author:** ![Gulgoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecd19e/32.png) [@Gulgoth](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gulgoth)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/35 "2019-11-16T12:15:33Z")
Not being able to disenchant the last copy of a troop stinks. Now I’m going to have at least one copy of a bunch of troops I don’t want in my ranks. Not liking this change at all. ---
**Author:** ![Magnusimus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/magnusimus/32/50652_2.png) [@Magnusimus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Magnusimus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 2:05pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/36 "2019-11-16T14:05:58Z")
Those troops are necessary to boost your kingdoms’ progression, so you do want them even if you don’t think so at this point. ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 4:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/37 "2019-11-16T16:48:47Z")
> [@Gulgoth](#): > > Not being able to disenchant the last copy of a troop stinks. Now I’m going to have at least one copy of a bunch of troops I don’t want in my ranks. Not liking this change at all. ![tenor%20(41)](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/a/0/a0305a446925d45e5352454b2aef7e92bfb01ab0.gif) Thank you devs for the change and helping players help themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 5:31pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/38 "2019-11-16T17:31:12Z")
Not if you don’t expect the game to last as log as it will take to get to that point 😉 I mean when I started playing this game I reckoned I’d be out the door within 2 years. I underestimated, but since we’re looking at 3-year roadmaps from here just to reach certain maximums, I think it’s still probable some of these goals will take longer than GoW will last. (I don’t mean that from the cynical perspective like “the sky is falling, the end is coming”, it just feels like _expecting_ a game to last 8-10 years is outside the norm. It /is/ notable that GoW has more of a chance of that as the number of games that last 5 years is relatively small.) ---
**Author:** ![awryan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/awryan/32/74650_2.png) [@awryan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/awryan)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 6:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/39 "2019-11-16T18:21:09Z")
> [@Slypenslyde](#): > > Not if you don’t expect the game to last as log as it will take to get to that point 😉 For every kingdom that has a hero class unlocked. Every troop 100% matters… Currently… Now … Not eventually… Not 8-10 years from now. ---
**Author:** ![Slypenslyde](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/slypenslyde/32/30373_2.png) [@Slypenslyde](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Slypenslyde)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2019, 7:11pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156/40 "2019-11-16T19:11:30Z")
Right but here’s my deal: you’re playing at a completely different level than I want to play. I could perhaps put the amount of time and effort into GoW that you put in, and then we’d have a good measure of how we stack up vs. each other. But I don’t personally want to do that and I mean that with zero judgement of your selection of hustle. The way you play isn’t fun for me, but it’s not worthy of mockery either. So my post has encoded in it an expectation that if I look ahead 3 years: - Something will have made pure faction 500 easier, be it a new game mechanic or a dev overhaul of the system. - Most kingdoms will have had another pet release, removing the need for a pure faction 500 completion. - Most kingdoms will have had several new troops release, making it easier to hit collection and leveling targets. - “Maximum” will have moved, and you will still be complaining that it feels _a little too close_ to not possible to be fun. - The relative stat gap between our two accounts will be closer, because the longer you play in these games the slower the progress you make becomes. In short: I don’t want to work really hard for candy. I’m pretty sure the same candy will be obtainable with less effort if I’m patient. It makes my life a little happier to believe those things, and it certainly makes my life worse if I try to make fun of you for having a different approach. So I guess I’m trying to subtly remind people who might be burning out that you can still stay “pretty caught up” with a reduced playstyle. “Being top 1%” takes 100 times more effort than “being top 10%”. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156.md?page=1) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/4-6-5-update-patch-notes/59156.md?page=3)