# 3.3 Feedback and suggestions

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036>\
**Category:** Official News\
**Created:** [February 21, 2018, 11:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036 "2018-02-21T23:12:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Rickygervais](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@Rickygervais](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Rickygervais)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 4:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/245 "2018-03-03T04:33:33Z")

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I know it’s a small thing but shouldn’t the vault key appear with other keys and not with orbs?

 ![IMG_8839](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/0/2/023845165cad4dd79b2481f115391c072924d8fb.JPG)

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**Author:** ![outlander](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/outlander/32/21087_2.png) [@outlander](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/outlander)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 4:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/246 "2018-03-03T04:51:58Z")

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I collected over 650 Dragon challenge points on this week’s event, suddenly the counter became 0… ??? this is so screwed up !(edited)  
Not only seals reset to 0 for our guild now. Dragon challenge reset to 0???

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 4:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/247 "2018-03-03T04:53:41Z")

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Restart the game. Then try a PVP battle. It’s just a visual error.

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**Author:** ![rldenton1595](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/848f3c/32.png) [@rldenton1595](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/rldenton1595)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/248 "2018-03-03T15:43:55Z")

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I fully agree that the rewards in raid are extremely lacking… I think my biggest concern is that with Raid now needing you to get Gems to buy sigils, and a lot of them, and then you need gems in the dungeon to buy things and also need gems in Guild Wars to level up your Sentinels. What I am getting at is there is not enough ways to earn the amount of gems you need to participate in everything now… Not happy about this at all…

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**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 6:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/249 "2018-03-03T18:08:07Z")

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Remember when Sirrian said the rewards were comparable to the gw rewards? It was a lie.  
No gems to speak of, no troops no extra xp and a huge time and gem sink. It’s gross.

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**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 9:21pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/250 "2018-03-03T21:21:36Z")

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If your counter shows zero, just open a gold key and the counter will resync. You don’t even need to restart the game.

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**Author:** ![Lilith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e36b37/32.png) [@Lilith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lilith)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 10:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/251 "2018-03-03T22:07:23Z")

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Sorry to work this out but I just closed portal 7. I decided to add up all the gems and event keys. It’s roughly 205 gems (15 per key).

This is better than the rewards for bracket 2 gw players.

Ahh this doesn’t include vault key or orbs… or souls… or diamonds because I don’t have a nice conversion rate memorized for them.

Gold is better too

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**Author:** ![Strat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2bfe46/32.png) [@Strat](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Strat)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2018, 10:47pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/252 "2018-03-03T22:47:33Z")

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> [@Calv1n](#):
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> Didn’t they say in the notes they "fixed’ or “improved” this ?! I disagree 🤔

It was ‘Fixed’ on PC. Considering the developers don’t play on console this is to be expected. I did see a post that at least they own 1 of each console at the office… So that’s something. Any how, I don’t know if they are hooked up or anything. 😋

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**Author:** ![UKresistance](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ukresistance/32/7558_2.png) [@UKresistance](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/UKresistance)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 12:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/253 "2018-03-04T00:25:15Z")

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And when you see devs in console chat, they login through chat and not the game console.

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**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 8:11am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/254 "2018-03-04T08:11:13Z")

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Spent way more than than 200, are you absolutely sure? The gem rewards were meagre at best…

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**Author:** ![Calv1n](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/calv1n/32/28721_2.png) [@Calv1n](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Calv1n)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 8:21am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/255 "2018-03-04T08:21:30Z")

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@Sirrian, @Saltypatra @Ozball Still no news on Invasions even though it starts in less than 22 hours? May I suggest in future we get some sort of reveal at least a day in advance if possible?

I really wanted to do a special event with in our guild based around the invasions but as I have no real idea what they are or the objectives this is going to be a tough one. I guess I’ll wait till it’s released, wrap my head around and then quickly come up with the parameters for our guild event. Would be very helpful in future (say the bounty event coming up) if we could have just a days notice please

Thanks

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**Author:** ![Nephilim](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/nephilim/32/29092_2.png) [@Nephilim](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Nephilim)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 10:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/256 "2018-03-04T10:14:48Z")

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If I leave my guild tomorrow can I still do invasion with the new guild? I want to do my last week with my original guild for old times sake.

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**Author:** ![The\_Unforgiven](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/the_unforgiven/32/24199_2.png) [@The\_Unforgiven](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/The_Unforgiven)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 11:03am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/257 "2018-03-04T11:03:46Z")

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The new Raid mode is basic and individual. I can’t say that feedback has been overwhelmingly good, I understand that long term players moving on is not an issue for the devs, however, I would propose weekly events that follow the following structure:

Week 1: Guild Wars  
Week 2: Raid  
Week 3: Guild Wars  
Week 4: Invasion  
Week 5: Guild Wars…

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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 11:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/258 "2018-03-04T11:38:54Z")

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One problem with the Raid structure is that individual battles feel mostly pointless. In Guild Wars each battle is important because of jockeying for position within the guild (if I do well I can contend for paragon!), to a lesser extent for ranking in the bracket (don’t want to end up in the bottom 3!), and to an even lesser extent because of the rewards (I get 3000 gold if I win and 300 if I lose). It’s much harder to motivate myself to do Raid battles because my own individual contributions are almost meaningless.

Right now my guild is at 32k/180k for the tenth portal. Even if I used all of my sigils, there is no way I could close that gap appreciably. And I have no way of knowing if my guild mates are also holding onto sigils. It could be that we have enough sigils to finish this portal, but none of us can muster up the drive to spend those sigils since we think it won’t matter. The gaps between portals are too large towards the end.

**Suggestion** :  
Take the portals and divide them. Then give out one reward for each smaller portal closed instead of all the rewards at once for each large portal.

The current structure of the last three portals is  
Portal 8 (90,000): 5000 gold, 500 souls, 1 Orb of Chaos, and 3 Celestial Traitstones  
Portal 9 (130,000): 5500 gold, 550 souls, 2 Orbs of Chaos  
Portal 10 (180,000): 6000 gold, 600 souls, 1 Major Orb of Chaos

Change those portals (and those below them) to look like  
Portal 23 (20,000): 500 souls  
Portal 24 (20,000): 5000 gold  
Portal 25 (20,000): 3 Celestial Traitstones  
Portal 26 (30,000): Orb of Chaos  
Portal 27 (40,000): 550 souls  
Portal 28 (40,000): 5500 gold  
Portal 29 (50,000): 2 Orbs of Chaos  
Portal 30 (55,000): 600 souls  
Portal 31 (55,000): 6000 gold  
Portal 32 (70,000): Major Orb of Chaos

Edit: I am perfectly happy to be shown wrong about this, but I suspect this would also lead to increased purchasing of later tiers. By increasing the value of individual sigils (since one person’s contributions are a larger fraction of the required point total), players are incentivized to buy a tier and close the portal themselves rather than wait for a guild member to do it.

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**Author:** ![Venar](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/venar/32/36634_2.png) [@Venar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Venar)\
**Post date:** [March 4, 2018, 11:50am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/259 "2018-03-04T11:50:12Z")

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I think it would be more … profitable to continue doing Boss battle (that last forever) if , as individual players , there was an extra « reward » for reaching goals (boss lvl 50, 100, 150, etc, all the way to 500)  
Each benchmark could give some growing rewards, like the snot stone events

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**Author:** ![SHARON](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/67e7ee/32.png) [@SHARON](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/SHARON)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 1:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/260 "2018-03-05T01:56:20Z")

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I have a growing concern about the overall balance of this game. There has always been a considerable plateau area in the midgame, but more and more this content–including the decisions on who to nerf and who to beef–seems geared toward only the endgame players. It is impossible for a person with a full-time job, even playing on their phone, to keep up with the people who can put twelve hours a day or hundreds of dollars into this game. I should know, I am that person. I spend money on gems of war, a little every month, as my treat to myself, but it makes no difference. The gap between mid and end game continues to widen, and with the most recent changes to cards like the dragon soul, my ability as a midgame player to even occasionally beat players who are two or three thousands points above me has vanished. I feel like a door was slammed in my face, and since Guild Wars routinely requires me to fight just those sorts of people, this provides a major problem. What’s worse, I can no longer get my family and friends to play this game. Every early game player I’ve tried to entice has quit after a handful of weeks–the barrier to entry has gotten too high. I understand fully that the purpose of a game is at least partially to make money. I’d be happy to pay a monthly fee for this game, if I also felt I got full and fair access to the content, or that my access was limited only by my talent, not my wallet or how long at a time I can play. If the purpose of this game is only to cater to end game players, I feel like that should be plainly addressed, in a statement about changing business models. But I believe that is not the intent of this game, or at least it was not the original intent of this game. Please consider more carefully the balance changes you are making, now and going forward. It is hard to imagine that you have deliberately made it more difficult for midgame players to compete in the challenges or to get optional rewards such as orbs or vaults, but that is the effect, intentional or not.

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**Author:** ![Skarbourne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/skarbourne/32/25756_2.png) [@Skarbourne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Skarbourne)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 10:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/261 "2018-03-05T22:33:53Z")

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Doing the math on this new weeks invasion and their portals. I don’t think it’s plausible to close all portals even with the higher ranked guilds. The amount of towers needed to be destroyed doesn’t add up with the amount of guild members. Or am I missing something?

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**Author:** ![Stan](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/stan/32/29888_2.png) [@Stan](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Stan)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2018, 10:38pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/262 "2018-03-05T22:38:08Z")

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You may find this thread interesting:

> [@\[solved\] 16,935 tower kills required is \*\*not\*\* correct](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/16-935-tower-kills-required-is-not-correct/36706):
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> I already posted this in another thread, but I’m posting here again for visibility. I have a strong inclination to believe that the current numbers of tower kills required for each reward stage are intended to be the total number of kills required to close out that reward stage from the start of the event. Some visual aids: Our guild’s current standings showing a total of 584 kills We are at 324 of 500 on stage 6, so clearly the counter gets reset with every reward stage. …

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**Author:** ![Skarbourne](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/skarbourne/32/25756_2.png) [@Skarbourne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Skarbourne)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 2:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/263 "2018-03-06T02:15:03Z")

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Thank you! This does help!! @Stan

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**Author:** ![TheIdleOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c68b51/32.png) [@TheIdleOne](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TheIdleOne)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2018, 7:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/3-3-feedback-and-suggestions/36036/264 "2018-03-06T07:48:40Z")

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I think it would be nice if The Vault and Primal Kingdom were combined into one just to fill one of them more.

Then, it would be awesome if that was given some kind of Kingdom bonus for owning them/maintaining them.

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