# 2.0 PvP Preview **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [May 13, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752 "2016-05-13T06:07:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:23pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/161 "2016-05-13T17:23:56Z")
_cough_ Anything with goblins or rock worms. šŸ™‚ ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/162 "2016-05-13T17:25:06Z")
Easy to beat at high level. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/163 "2016-05-13T17:25:41Z")
I take Goblins and worms any day over traited dragons or Gorgotha+anything, Goblins die so much faster and it is an actual fight not a turtle festival. ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/164 "2016-05-13T17:26:15Z")
Oh I can beat it for sure with Gorgi, but that doesnā€™t mean I or most like fighting them. lol ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:26pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/165 "2016-05-13T17:26:35Z")
There are some awesome anti dragon teams also šŸ˜‰ I laugh at 4x celestasia as I crush it into dust. ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/166 "2016-05-13T17:28:25Z")
> [@Mr.Strange](#): > > I thought you meant designing teams that would actually beat people more. On PC/Mobile, the people around the 600-1,000 area donā€™t tend to lose battles. The only way to make them ā€œloseā€ is to use a team that will take them so long to kill that it wouldnā€™t be worth invading. This should also reduce oneā€™s team score since most annoying teams donā€™t need legends. Yes, building a good team will actually be beneficial now, but if that good team has too high of a score it will just make the person even more of a target. Iā€™m pretty sure any level 800-1,000 using 3-4 legends is going to get targeted so hard that it wonā€™t matter what the composition is. The best team has to be one that avoids too high a score to avoid the 3 trophy slot for higher players, but still be strong enough to beat people who it will show up as 3 trophies for. I believe that will be the meta. Yes it is still built to win, but not built to be trophy profitable. While only in game testing will tell, I am quite sure that is the best method. ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:29pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/167 "2016-05-13T17:29:39Z")
I have no problem beating them either, but they still take more time than Goblins do once Celest and Venoxia cuddle up. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/168 "2016-05-13T17:30:22Z")
This is true, goblins can be eaten in 4-8 good turnsā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Gouki](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/gouki/32/22405_2.png) [@Gouki](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Gouki)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/169 "2016-05-13T17:33:09Z")
Well that entirely depends on whether base rarity is a significant factor in evaluating team score. If actual rarity factors in the team score much more than base rarity, cheesing the system by taking low base rarity troops will not be an issue. ---
**Author:** ![HKdirewolf](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hkdirewolf/32/21614_2.png) [@HKdirewolf](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/HKdirewolf)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:36pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/170 "2016-05-13T17:36:17Z")
So are we talking blues and purples here? ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/171 "2016-05-13T17:37:46Z")
@Gouki Fineā€¦ Iā€™ll just go 3x Inferno King + Mercy. Summons are being buffed next patch, which means Inferno King becomes the the new ā€œold evasionā€, but it is for all of his life instead of 1 skull dodge. šŸ˜‰ ---
**Author:** ![Emos](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/emos/32/5163_2.png) [@Emos](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Emos)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 5:43pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/172 "2016-05-13T17:43:08Z")
I wonder how/if the daily login reward will be adjusted? Since getting to rank 1 will no longer be the 90 min cakewalk it usually is (according to Sirrian) will the 1000 gold 16 daily Glory hold up? ---
**Author:** ![Cell](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/cell/32/5524_2.png) [@Cell](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Cell)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:48pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/173 "2016-05-13T18:48:19Z")
> [@Dustin1280](#): > > Do you get EACH tier reward every time you hit a new tier? If so AWESOME. If itā€™s only the difference, then the rewards are DRASTICALLY lower. > The gold rewards for each match seems to have shrunk considerably, this worries me because it looks like itā€™s going to make gold gain a lot slower. ![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/2X/f/fce743c065063c7175d5672ff954c71c0cd7a125.png) Yes, every time you hit a new tier you can collect the bonuses each time ---
**Author:** ![Dustin1280](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/dustin1280/32/7970_2.png) [@Dustin1280](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Dustin1280)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/174 "2016-05-13T18:54:41Z")
Thanks for the confirmation Cell, that resolves one of my concerns. Is NO ONE else worried about the gold gains? In the preview they are minuscule compared to current pvp gold gain. Hopefully itā€™s just the examples that were shown and not an actual nerf to pvp gold gain. ---
**Author:** ![Koolbiird](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/koolbiird/32/5099_2.png) [@Koolbiird](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Koolbiird)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 7:03pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/175 "2016-05-13T19:03:40Z")
> [@Dustin1280](#): > > The gold rewards for each match seems to have shrunk considerably, this worries me because it looks like itā€™s going to make gold gain a lot slower. Sirrian mentioned that they tested all of their games on 2000 bot accounts. The gold gains may not be accurate in comparison to the actual player base. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 7:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/176 "2016-05-13T19:10:54Z")
> [@Tacet](#): > > the people around the 600-1,000 area donā€™t tend to lose battles Unless itā€™s a Great Maw / Mercy enemy team and something goes wrong with the coin tossā€¦ > [@Tacet](#): > > The best team has to be one that avoids too high a score to avoid the 3 trophy slot for higher players, but still be strong enough to beat people who it will show up as 3 trophies for. I believe that will be the meta. Yes it is still built to win, but not built to be trophy profitable I think we are analysing things far too muchā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/177 "2016-05-13T19:17:29Z")
> [@Tacet](#): > > - 2,000 gold- 300 souls- 10 glory keys-100 glory New Winnings for rank 1 Gold = 4375 Souls = 535 Glory = 275 Keys = 46 Pretty big bump! ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 7:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/178 "2016-05-13T19:56:49Z")
Judging by the numbers in thereā€¦ Start with 500 points at Rank 15. Gain average of 16 points for a win, maxing out around 30 - lets go with an adjusted average of 20 because weā€™re going to aim for the best gains typically. PVP Rank 1 is up there on 1900 points. That means you need +70 wins (give or take), whereas right now its possible to hit Rank 1 in something like 21 wins. So yeah, itā€™ll be a bit harder. Iā€™m OK with this. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 7:57pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/179 "2016-05-13T19:57:33Z")
They might have some sort of win streak bonusā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 8:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/180 "2016-05-13T20:00:27Z")
I hope defend loses donā€™t break win streak. [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752.md?page=8) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752.md?page=10)