# 2.0 PvP Preview
**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752
**Category:** Official News
**Created:** [May 13, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752 "2016-05-13T06:07:56Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/21 "2016-05-13T06:36:00Z")
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### Author:  [@Giandorro](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Giandorro)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:38am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/22 "2016-05-13T06:38:28Z")
Im so hyped cant wait.đ
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### Author:  [@zqxinran](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/zqxinran)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/23 "2016-05-13T06:42:18Z")
> [@Sirrian](#):
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> Yes - you DO lose points for a defense loss. Not EQUAL TO the number the attacker wins though.
Thanks for the preview!
But Iâm wondering, the more I played, the higher rank I will be? If so, that kind of rank might waste players lots of time on those top 10 ranks. I donât want to see we stuck on this game. âč
As you see, defense loss will lose points, but you know, itâs AI that controls my defend team, so, it might be not fair that defense loss will make my rank fall down. I mean, sometimes not my defense teams are bad, itâs AI donât know how to play it good.
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### Author:  [@RiverSong](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/RiverSong)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:42am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/24 "2016-05-13T06:42:36Z")
OMFG. Guess weâre all going to find out if weâre as good as we think we are. And I think my invasion teams are going on defense.
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### Author:  [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:43am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/25 "2016-05-13T06:43:20Z")
> [@Ozball](#):
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> EDIT: Sorry, I worded that badly. If I invade someone will I get more or less PVP points than if I Revenged against them?
The same⊠you WILL get a bit more glory however if you revenge them.
The exact numbers for this might change over the first few weeks as we balance things out though⊠weâve been testing it with a network of 2000 bot accounts. Nothing can prepare us for what 10âs of thousands of players will actually do though!
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### Author:  [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/26 "2016-05-13T06:45:01Z")
Wonât that incentivise people to have weaker Defense teams since they can just make the points back on the Revenge and get better rewards?
⊠Iâd love to see what kind of teams those bots are using đ Sounds like it would be fun to watchâŠ
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### Author:  [@sethrogensbackhair](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sethrogensbackhair)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:45am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/27 "2016-05-13T06:45:44Z")
@Sirrian noticed you said âsee you when 2.0 goes liveâ and not âsee you in the next previewâ just wishful thinking on my part? đ¶
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### Author:  [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/28 "2016-05-13T06:46:20Z")
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### Author:  [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/29 "2016-05-13T06:47:08Z")
> [@Ozball](#):
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> Wonât that incentivise people to have weaker Defense teams since they can just make the points back on the Revenge and get better rewards?
I donât think so⊠if you put in a weak defense team youâre going to be a VERY attractive target for people and you might find you get attacked A LOT and lose a whole bunch of points.
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### Author:  [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:48am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/30 "2016-05-13T06:48:08Z")
Are we still limited to the 3 Revenge matches then?
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### Author:  [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/31 "2016-05-13T06:49:46Z")
> [@Ozball](#):
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> Are we still limited to the 3 Revenge matches then?
Not exactly⊠the system will remember a bunch of your defenses, and occasionally offer you one⊠once every 2-3 battles usually.
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### Author:  [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:52am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/32 "2016-05-13T06:52:10Z")
Fair enough, thanks for the answers!
So to sum up, basically a weak team will get you attacked a lot, and you are unlikely to be able to keep up with the losses in PVP points even with the revenge matches, meaning it will be a better strategy to have a stronger defense so you donât lose as many points.
One last question: Do we get any PVP points for a Defense win?
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### Author:  [@Larohar](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Larohar)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:53am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/33 "2016-05-13T06:53:18Z")
I assume that⊠uhhhhm⊠âdisconnectingâ from a game now counts as a loss? Please?
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### Author:  [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:54am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/34 "2016-05-13T06:54:31Z")
> [@Larohar](#):
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> âdisconnectingâ from a game
I had lots of network outages! My phone ran out of batteries! The bus drove into a tunnel! Gamma radiation! THIS PROVES NOTHING!
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### Author:  [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/35 "2016-05-13T06:58:35Z")
_âIâm going into a tunnel, in a canyon, on an airplane, while hanging up the phone.â_
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### Author:  [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/36 "2016-05-13T06:58:38Z")
> [@Ozball](#):
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> One last question: Do we get any PVP points for a Defense win?
Yes indeed!
> [@Larohar](#):
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> I assume that⊠uhhhhm⊠âdisconnectingâ from a game now counts as a loss? Please?
You bet!
I KNOW that a few people will lose a few points due to _honestly_ unfortunate circumstances, but itâs the only way a system like this can work.
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### Author:  [@CSZ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CSZ)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/37 "2016-05-13T06:59:17Z")
Time to quit PVP then (at least for me). I react pretty allergic to leadeboards since I made only bad experiences when they are involved. And casual battles also donât seem to be worth the time. Maybe 1-2 battles in between farming to spice things up.
I can live with those changes as long as you donât offer the event troop only as a reward for, letâs say, the best 10%.
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### Author:  [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 6:59am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/38 "2016-05-13T06:59:55Z")
> [@Sirrian](#):
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> I KNOW that a few people will lose a few points due to honestly unfortunate circumstances
My iPhone has a glitch where it crashes whenever a Great Maw eats one of my team⊠this is _so_ not my fault and Apple refuse to fix itâŠ
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### Author:  [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 7:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/39 "2016-05-13T07:13:26Z")
You say in the video that rank 5 is the new rank 1 and that rank 1 gives a higher reward than before, but now both of them are less.
Tier 1 in PvP now:
- 2,000 gold
- 300 souls
- 10 glory keys
-100 glory
Tier 1 in PvP in video:
- 1,000 gold
- 100 souls
- 10 glory keys
- 50 glory
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### Author:  [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)
#### Post date: [May 13, 2016, 7:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/40 "2016-05-13T07:20:30Z")
Each time you reach a new rank you get to collect the rewards, so add up all rewards prior to rank 5 too đ
EDIT: If you did that then I donât know xD I canât check the video again my phone internet is far to lame to run a video without 10 minutes loading :S
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