# 2.0 PvP Preview **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [May 13, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752 "2016-05-13T06:07:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![CSZ](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/csz/32/4784_2.png) [@CSZ](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/CSZ)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 10:15am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/261 "2016-05-16T10:15:05Z")
I am already working towards full-traiting this team: Celestasia, Venoxia, Moloch, Jarl. Each extra turn will cause havoc šŸ˜ˆ ---
**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 12:10pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/262 "2016-05-16T12:10:13Z")
@Sirrian, I donā€™t think anyoneā€™s asked this yet: From the preview, it appears that in 2.0, a PvP defeat means you lose PvP points, but no longer lose trophies. Is this correct? I hope it is correct, because while I think itā€™s good that defeats have a penalty in PvP points (even if you quit out), I donā€™t think itā€™s fair to penalise guilds if one of their players is having a bad day connecting to the network. I presume, since casual is mostly not even worth a trophy, that casual defeats definitely donā€™t have a trophy penalty. ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/263 "2016-05-16T12:12:48Z")
I believe that is correct yes, but Iā€™m just waiting on confirmation, since our tech lead, Andrew, has been out of the office for a few days. ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 12:12pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/264 "2016-05-16T12:12:49Z")
> [@actreal](#): > > From the preview, it appears that in 2.0, a PvP defeat means you lose PvP points, but no longer lose trophies. Is this correct? This is a great question! ---
**Author:** ![actreal](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/actreal/32/1945_2.png) [@actreal](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/actreal)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 12:15pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/265 "2016-05-16T12:15:38Z")
You know whatā€™s better than a great question? A lightning fast reply in the affirmative! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Hairyskinback](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/hairyskinback/32/3566_2.png) [@Hairyskinback](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Hairyskinback)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 12:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/266 "2016-05-16T12:25:59Z")
You know whats better than all thatā€¦a fresh cream cake šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 1:22pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/267 "2016-05-16T13:22:57Z")
And better then that is 2 fresh cream cakes. And Nimhain. ---
**Author:** ![kzintiwife](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/kzintiwife/32/2350_2.png) [@kzintiwife](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/kzintiwife)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 1:33pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/268 "2016-05-16T13:33:32Z")
Man, i love that devs spend time on the forums! ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 1:49pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/269 "2016-05-16T13:49:31Z")
I get so hyped when I see all this new cool things and I keep wondering will it happen today, tomorrow, this week. . xD ---
**Author:** ![Ashasekayi](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ashasekayi/32/61090_2.png) [@Ashasekayi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ashasekayi)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 1:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/270 "2016-05-16T13:54:36Z")
> [@kzintiwife](#): > > Man, i love that devs spend time on the forums! It really is cool that they get involved in the community and play in the game. ---
**Author:** ![Wallace](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/wallace/32/4986_2.png) [@Wallace](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Wallace)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 2:37pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/271 "2016-05-16T14:37:16Z")
Iā€™m really excited for the defense team tips in @Tacetā€™s new video. And PVP2.0! ---
**Author:** ![Tacet](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/tacet/32/35_2.png) [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 4:00pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/272 "2016-05-16T16:00:34Z")
@Sirrian Has the new PvP system of rank 15-1 been switched from glory keys to gold keys? The chart in the preview shows them as gold keys, but currently they are glory keys. ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 4:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/273 "2016-05-16T16:01:50Z")
Doesnā€™t the rewards chart in-game show the gold keys icon at the moment? Iā€™ve never gotten high enough to see if they were gold or glory thoughā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 4:07pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/274 "2016-05-16T16:07:50Z")
In-game shows the picture for Gold Keys, regardless of the fact that we are definitely getting Glory Keys. Beats me. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 8:30pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/275 "2016-05-16T20:30:18Z")
Iā€™m mortally wounded you didnā€™t mention me as a hard option ā˜¹ Though there are unpalatable options like Sister or Alex that concern me (not much but a little)ā€¦ What does concern me is the Maw/Mercy combo that I suspect Iā€™ll hit in 50% of battles past rank 5ā€¦ @Sirrian have we considered adjusting those guysā€¦? ---
**Author:** ![DonBoba](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/donboba/32/25457_2.png) [@DonBoba](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/DonBoba)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2016, 8:41pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/276 "2016-05-16T20:41:04Z")
Iā€™m wondering will daily rank rewards remain the same or will they be higher? (since rank 1 will be harder to obtain) ---
**Author:** ![Namour](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/namour/32/2957_2.png) [@Namour](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Namour)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 12:14am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/277 "2016-05-17T00:14:19Z")
Lol - I do hope you havenā€™t been mortally wounded. I recall your team is pretty strong, but for whatever reason Iā€™ve only had you pop up a handful of times in the past few weeks, whereas the three I named pop up about every 20th battle. I generally skip MrSammy though, as he bases himself in Whitehelm and I donā€™t want to ā€˜wasteā€™ my luck and accidentally pick up Arcane Summer - I rather keep battling in kingdoms where the arcanes are of interest to me. This may change with 2.0. I would be interested to know why I see the same 1000 level players so often, but others rarely at all. The immediate response may be that these three are the most active, but I suspect yourself, as well as outlander and rivergod, for example, are also pretty active. ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/278 "2016-05-17T00:56:10Z")
> [@Jainus](#): > > What does concern me is the Maw/Mercy combo that I suspect Iā€™ll hit in 50% of battles past rank 5ā€¦ Does the AI play Maw different than other Troops? Because I can bet you that everyone will have a team (with a single target Spell caster or two) to counter Maw, which Iā€™m sure the AI takes 12-15 turns to fill ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/279 "2016-05-17T01:04:02Z")
The thing about Maw is that, when it gets its third trait, skull hits have a 15% chance to eat you. That means that even the ā€œdumbā€ AI is still a major threat. You need to deny yellow, brown, _and_ skulls to be safe, and Mercy makes it a lot harder (since purple too becomes a threat). ---
**Author:** ![TaliaParks](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/taliaparks/32/11738_2.png) [@TaliaParks](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/TaliaParks)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2016, 1:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/280 "2016-05-17T01:16:45Z")
> [@Lyya](#): > > The thing about Maw is that, when it gets its third trait, skull hits have a 15% chance to eat you. That means that even the ā€œdumbā€ AI is still a major threat. You need to deny yellow, brown, and skulls to be safe, and Mercy makes it a lot harder (since purple too becomes a threat). I went to look up Mercy and your host is down again ā˜¹ Alright, so Skulls and Mawā€™s third Trait are the problem? A fully-Traited Dust Devil will fix that. The point is, Consoles donā€™t even have Drifting Sands and I can STILL come up with about 4 counters to any Great Maw/Mercy set up. Best thing about people abusing the meta, one doesnā€™t even have to switch teams to kill them all with ease! šŸ˜‰ [Previous page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752.md?page=13) [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752.md?page=15)