# 2.0 PvP Preview **URL:** \ **Category:** Official News\ **Created:** [May 13, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752 "2016-05-13T06:07:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:07am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/1 "2016-05-13T06:07:56Z")
We’re closing in on the 2.0 Update (no exact release date to share with you all yet though, sorry). But, while we’re all waiting, twiddling our thumbs, tails, talons, and other twiddle-able appendages, we thought you might enjoy this video talking about some changes to the PvP System in 2.0. [![](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/uploads/gemsofwar/original/3X/9/5/95b7b1ef4b0337c5d2a712a8a718a47a8250235a.jpeg "Gems of War 2.0 Preview - PvP") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEx65q8pXNw) ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:09am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/2 "2016-05-13T06:09:18Z")
Whoa that was @nimhain’s voice 🙂 @DonBoba will be pleased…! ---
**Author:** ![Machiknight](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/machiknight/32/6108_2.png) [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/3 "2016-05-13T06:16:22Z")
Uhm, holy cow. Done very interesting changes. Top 20 rewards arcane stones even, nifty! Good looking work guys. Heya @Nimhain ! ---
**Author:** ![Zelarith](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/zelarith/32/1642_2.png) [@Zelarith](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Zelarith)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:20am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/4 "2016-05-13T06:20:11Z")
11 arcanes for number one? Oh boy, match masters will fight one another for it x) ---
**Author:** ![Shiratori](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f04885/32.png) [@Shiratori](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shiratori)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:22am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/5 "2016-05-13T06:22:59Z")
And just harder to reach a weekly rank of 1 with big prizes overall. Definitely making things crazy worthwhile here. ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/6 "2016-05-13T06:23:23Z")
This is looking great! Really looking forward to it! Just need to start brushing up my PVP teams a bit now 😉 Question though, are the arcane traitstones random each week? Are they tied to the weekly reward chest troop? or is it winner’s choice? ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:23am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/7 "2016-05-13T06:23:57Z")
Holy kickass. ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:25am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/8 "2016-05-13T06:25:04Z")
> [@Ozball](#): > > Question though, are the arcane traitstones random each week? We’ll probably theme it to the Kingdom for the event somehow… ---
**Author:** ![sethrogensbackhair](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sethrogensbackhair/32/563_2.png) [@sethrogensbackhair](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/sethrogensbackhair)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:26am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/9 "2016-05-13T06:26:23Z")
only the hardest team in casual gives any trophies? ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:27am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/10 "2016-05-13T06:27:18Z")
That looks great! I’m really looking forward to these changes. With rivals, it makes PvP more personal. Up until now it’s really felt anonymous. Question, @Sirrian: Is there going to be additional rewards for successful defenses, or is the only benefit there, slowing down your opponents as you’re racing for #1 on the leaderboard? ---
**Author:** ![Shimrra](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/shimrra/32/87_2.png) [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:28am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/11 "2016-05-13T06:28:32Z")
To be fair, slowing them down seems to be worth doing. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:30am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/12 "2016-05-13T06:30:39Z")
Likely so, though if the revenge battle nets you more rewards than the invade loss loses for them, the meta will still skew toward weak defenses. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:31am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/13 "2016-05-13T06:31:23Z")
Agree, this still sounds odd… ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/14 "2016-05-13T06:32:12Z")
Actually that raises a question: Do you lose PVP points if you lose in Defense? If not then how are you slowing them down? And if you do, ouch… that could hurt with the AI as it is… (but would put more emphasis on defense teams) ---
**Author:** ![Sirrian](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/sirrian/32/35758_2.png) [@Sirrian](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Sirrian)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/15 "2016-05-13T06:32:55Z")
Yes - you DO lose points for a defense loss. Not EQUAL TO the number the attacker wins though. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/16 "2016-05-13T06:32:56Z")
You slow them down indirectly by causing _them_ to lose points. However, this doesn’t translate into direct rewards for you. ---
**Author:** ![Lyya](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/lyya/32/3650_2.png) [@Lyya](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Lyya)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/17 "2016-05-13T06:33:18Z")
Aha! Stick, not carrot. Well played. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/18 "2016-05-13T06:33:44Z")
Yeah fair enough, I missed the part where it said that they would lose points if you beat them. ---
**Author:** ![Jainus](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/jainus/32/34949_2.png) [@Jainus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Jainus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:33am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/19 "2016-05-13T06:33:57Z")
Can we have stick _and_ carrot? or a big carrotty stick? a sticky carrot? ---
**Author:** ![Ozball](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ozball/32/36110_2.png) [@Ozball](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Ozball)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2016, 6:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752/20 "2016-05-13T06:34:38Z")
Are the PVP point gains/losses from Revenges higher or lower than invades? EDIT: Sorry, I worded that badly. If I invade someone will I get more or less PVP points than if I Revenged against them? [Next page](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-preview/6752.md?page=2)