# 2.0 PvP Modification Suggestion

**URL:** <https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-modification-suggestion/7424>\
**Category:** Gameplay Chat (General)\
**Created:** [May 26, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-modification-suggestion/7424 "2016-05-26T14:51:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Grundulum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/82dd89/32.png) [@Grundulum](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Grundulum)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2016, 4:24pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-modification-suggestion/7424/69 "2016-05-27T16:24:37Z")

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This is going to sound weird, but I don’t think you currently lose PVP points for a defense loss. I’ve watched my losses counter go from 30-ish to 55, and I haven’t lost a single PVP point. I think you lose points for defense _wins_ – I have only two defense victories, and also only two lines in my log show me losing points.

So, once again, it may be more effective to set weak defense teams. 😉

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