# 2.0 PvP Modification Suggestion **URL:** \ **Category:** Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)\ **Created:** [May 26, 2016, 2:51pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-modification-suggestion/7424 "2016-05-26T14:51:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 42
**Author:** ![ogunther](https://sea1.discourse-cdn.com/flex019/user_avatar/community.gemsofwar.com/ogunther/32/1464_2.png) [@ogunther](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ogunther)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2016, 7:54pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-modification-suggestion/7424/42 "2016-05-26T19:54:41Z")
@Gouki I’ve voiced my thoughts in a new post (below) but to summarize, for me the issue is that defensive losses penalize players without giving them an effective avenue to improve their abilities. By not giving players access to review the actual defensive battles, players are left guessing as to why their teams are winning or losing battles yet they’re still being penalized. It’s just bad game mechanics. > [@Why the defense dynamic is broken post 2.0 & why you should care](http://community.gemsofwar.com/t/why-the-defense-dynamic-is-broken-post-2-0-why-you-should-care/7460): > > This is going to be a wall of text so I apologize ahead of time and thank you for those who choose to read it slight_smile There have been a lot of thoughts, both pro and con, posted about the new ranked system post 2.0, many of which deal with the new defense mechanic and the penalties associated with it. Many of these focus on why it is or is not good that players are now being penalized in a real way for defensive losses. Regardless on where you stand on the issue, I believe the defense dy… --- _[View the full topic](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/2-0-pvp-modification-suggestion/7424)._