# Gameplay Chat (PC/Mobile)

**URL:** https://community.gemsofwar.com/c/gameplay/5.md?page=162

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## [Unlocking traits for defenders no use?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/unlocking-traits-for-defenders-no-use/2018)

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**Author:** [@Royalty](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Royalty)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 17, 2015, 7:58am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/unlocking-traits-for-defenders-no-use/2018 "2015-12-17T07:58:45Z")

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\*AI troops will start unlocking traits as the player’s Hero levels up. Does this mean unlocking traits for your defenders isn’t usefull?

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## [Ascending has no effect on kingdom leveling?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-has-no-effect-on-kingdom-leveling/2003)

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**Author:** [@ZIGS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZIGS)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 17, 2015, 4:18am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/ascending-has-no-effect-on-kingdom-leveling/2003 "2015-12-17T04:18:51Z")

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From the patch notes: \*Players can unlock Kingdom Power Levels by: Collecting Kingdom Troops Ascending and leveling kingdom troops Unlocking Traits on kingdom troops It mentions ascending as one of the things you ca…

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## [Holy Symbol name change?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/holy-symbol-name-change/1968)

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**Author:** [@Mufasha](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Mufasha)\
**Replies:** 11\
**Last updated:** [December 17, 2015, 12:19am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/holy-symbol-name-change/1968 "2015-12-17T00:19:16Z")

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Did Holy Symbol recently receive a name change or was it really only in my head that it had been referred to as the holy hand grenade?

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## [Alternative VIP Points Obtaining Methods](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/alternative-vip-points-obtaining-methods/1972)

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**Author:** [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Replies:** 6\
**Last updated:** [December 16, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/alternative-vip-points-obtaining-methods/1972 "2015-12-16T22:42:06Z")

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Will there ever be opportunities to earn VIP points by other means aside from spending money? Things such as: Guides and community related activity Sacrificing large amounts of gems (which would also allow people to bu…

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## [Are gem bought souls worth it in 1.0.8?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-gem-bought-souls-worth-it-in-1-0-8/1971)

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**Author:** [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 16, 2015, 8:28pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-gem-bought-souls-worth-it-in-1-0-8/1971 "2015-12-16T20:28:33Z")

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I’m curious to hear if anyone is thinking about buying some souls in 1.0.8. I haven’t heard anyone talking about their increase in quantity for the second time. Their cost to price ratio has shifted quite a bit since th…

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## [What is the best way to get to level 100 quickly?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-to-level-100-quickly/1959)

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**Author:** [@Finalxros](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Finalxros)\
**Replies:** 12\
**Last updated:** [December 16, 2015, 4:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-the-best-way-to-get-to-level-100-quickly/1959 "2015-12-16T16:42:00Z")

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My friend recently discovered this game and dragged me and a few others into this “race” of his. He calls it the “Grand race to level 100”. The only rule is, no experience boosting outfits, other than that it is “free g…

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## [1.08 and your hoard of keys, what are YOU doing?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-08-and-your-hoard-of-keys-what-are-you-doing/1907)

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**Author:** [@Machiknight](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Machiknight)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [December 16, 2015, 10:16am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-08-and-your-hoard-of-keys-what-are-you-doing/1907 "2015-12-16T10:16:16Z")

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Several posts about 1.08 and keys floating around so I want to take this one in another direction. What are YOU doing with your hoard, and why? I’ve got about 800 keys, I’m thinking about spending half now to get units …

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## [Black Manacles (Secret weapon?)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/black-manacles-secret-weapon/1930)

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**Author:** [@esslee](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/esslee)\
**Replies:** 20\
**Last updated:** [December 16, 2015, 1:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/black-manacles-secret-weapon/1930 "2015-12-16T01:04:51Z")

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I note that a weapon called Black Manacles ( 6 damage to all + 20% chance to consume random enemy) is included in the special offer section today. This is the first time I’ve ever seen a weapon ‘for sale’ that has not be…

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## [Attn: dhjl (PVP Related)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/attn-dhjl-pvp-related/1943)

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**Author:** [@Kairyu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kairyu)\
**Replies:** 7\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2015, 10:56pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/attn-dhjl-pvp-related/1943 "2015-12-15T22:56:49Z")

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Thanks for showing me that my team layout is almost on par with one of yours (sans Sheggra). Any particular reason you arranged them in that way?

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## [Probabilities in 1.0.7](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/probabilities-in-1-0-7/1950)

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**Author:** [@KAYA43V3R](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KAYA43V3R)\
**Replies:** 1\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2015, 10:25pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/probabilities-in-1-0-7/1950 "2015-12-15T22:25:43Z")

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Before the release of the 1.0.8 patch, many of you are reluctant to open or maintain your keys. On this forum, I know some people like statistics and probabilities. So to leave a trace of these probabilities on 1.0.7, …

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## [1.0.8: need troops +1 to sacrifice? UPDATE: yes!](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-8-need-troops-1-to-sacrifice-update-yes/1922)

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**Author:** [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\
**Replies:** 53\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2015, 6:39pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/1-0-8-need-troops-1-to-sacrifice-update-yes/1922 "2015-12-15T18:39:27Z")

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So I’m still confused. For ascending troops you need several to sacrifice. Apparently the rate is 5 to 1. However, some have stated here that you need 1 extra copy of a troop, because after all you need a troop to ascend…

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## [Pertaining to PVP (Rewards, Defending etc)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pertaining-to-pvp-rewards-defending-etc/1938)

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**Author:** [@Kairyu](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Kairyu)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2015, 12:08pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/pertaining-to-pvp-rewards-defending-etc/1938 "2015-12-15T12:08:07Z")

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There were several questions that I had about PVP that rose recently. Was wondering if anyone/devs could help shed some light: What is the formula for determining the rewards you get from a player? I know its based of…

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## [Skipping Weaker Glory Troops](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skipping-weaker-glory-troops/1915)

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**Author:** [@Tacet](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Tacet)\
**Replies:** 15\
**Last updated:** [December 15, 2015, 12:47am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/skipping-weaker-glory-troops/1915 "2015-12-15T00:47:09Z")

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Between the increased glory cost for troops, the amount of a troop needed to make it mythical, the fact that troops do nothing for kingdom leveling, and the better uses for glory in 1.0.8, wouldn’t it be better to just s…

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## [New unaddressed content in the story?!](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-unaddressed-content-in-the-story/1909)

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**Author:** [@killerman3333](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/killerman3333)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2015, 11:52pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/new-unaddressed-content-in-the-story/1909 "2015-12-14T23:52:48Z")

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So i am just playing the story line in khaziel and got the legendary troop from it but then it said i still have a quest in that area. I already unlocked all the challenges mind you so of course i was curious and i go in…

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## [Not in Chests - a list of troops](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-in-chests-a-list-of-troops/904)

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**Author:** [@melkathi](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/melkathi)\
**Replies:** 19\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/not-in-chests-a-list-of-troops/904 "2015-12-14T16:17:09Z")

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The following troops are currently not in chests: Glory Rewards Dokkalfar - Reward from 12th July 2015 Swamplash - Reward from 27th July 2015 Goblin Rocket - Reward from 10th August 2015 Elf Eater - Reward from 24th…

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## [Forest Fairies (Fey/Forest of Thorns team)](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/forest-fairies-fey-forest-of-thorns-team/1688)

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**Author:** [@Elendil52](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elendil52)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2015, 2:42pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/forest-fairies-fey-forest-of-thorns-team/1688 "2015-12-14T14:42:47Z")

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It’s virtually impossible to build a team with A) Maximum kingdom bonus; B) Maximum troop type bonus; and C) Total mana color coverage. But this one does: Gloomleaf/Dryad/Treant/Green Seer. The only color “missing” is …

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## [When is the next Gem Sale?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/when-is-the-next-gem-sale/1863)

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**Author:** [@Shimrra](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Shimrra)\
**Replies:** 14\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2015, 2:36am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/when-is-the-next-gem-sale/1863 "2015-12-14T02:36:27Z")

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I can’t be the only one who wants to get all the things once the patch hits. Do we have a Gem sale coming up, say, around Christmas? I guess it will be dependent on the patch release as well. @Sirrian, @Nimhain ?

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## [Keep keys before patch 1.0.8 ...?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/keep-keys-before-patch-1-0-8/1771)

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**Author:** [@KAYA43V3R](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/KAYA43V3R)\
**Replies:** 65\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2015, 2:13am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/keep-keys-before-patch-1-0-8/1771 "2015-12-14T02:13:03Z")

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A topic to exchange opinions and everyone’s ideas on the use of magic and iron keys before or after the patch 1.0.8

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## [Well \*that\* was rude](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/well-that-was-rude/1891)

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**Author:** [@dhjl](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/dhjl)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [December 14, 2015, 1:34am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/well-that-was-rude/1891 "2015-12-14T01:34:56Z")

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Seriously, I’m standing right there… :cry:

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## [Impenetrable Fortress Gates](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impenetrable-fortress-gates/1791)

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**Author:** [@MarvelKit](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/MarvelKit)\
**Replies:** 25\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2015, 10:01pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/impenetrable-fortress-gates/1791 "2015-12-13T22:01:00Z")

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Between all the hoo-hah about the new patch and kingdom, just some amusing fact. I used to have 1 Fortress Gate for my defends (for discussions about the pros and cons of strong and weak defences I refer to other threads…

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## [Spend Glory on Souls before 1.0.8?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spend-glory-on-souls-before-1-0-8/1833)

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**Author:** [@Fisch](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Fisch)\
**Replies:** 22\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2015, 3:51am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/spend-glory-on-souls-before-1-0-8/1833 "2015-12-13T03:51:27Z")

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Hey there! So in 1.0.8 you can level up to level 20, so one will need a lot of souls for that. Also, you can “sacrifice” the troop to ascend it. As I understand it, sacrificing troop cards means destroying them. So the…

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## [Thank you so much!](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-you-so-much/1862)

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**Author:** [@ChooseMyFate](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ChooseMyFate)\
**Replies:** 2\
**Last updated:** [December 13, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/thank-you-so-much/1862 "2015-12-13T01:02:12Z")

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Continuing the discussion from Banner Identification Help: OMGSH thank you! So helpful :smiley: My google search failed me. Saving this!

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## [Should we save keys for the New Key update?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/should-we-save-keys-for-the-new-key-update/1871)

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**Author:** [@ladyhiggs](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ladyhiggs)\
**Replies:** 3\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2015, 11:14pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/should-we-save-keys-for-the-new-key-update/1871 "2015-12-12T23:14:45Z")

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So so we save our old keys for the new key update?

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## [NPC's giving gems](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/npcs-giving-gems/1808)

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**Author:** [@Freakynation76](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Freakynation76)\
**Replies:** 18\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2015, 11:04am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/npcs-giving-gems/1808 "2015-12-12T11:04:42Z")

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Has anyone else had one of their NPC’s give them gems or any other items? I just won a battle in the new land Darkstone and Luther popped up after and said I gave you some gems let’s use them for keys or something like …

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## [Are you guys gonna beef up the rewards for defense winnings?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-you-guys-gonna-beef-up-the-rewards-for-defense-winnings/1844)

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**Author:** [@ZIGS](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/ZIGS)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2015, 1:55am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/are-you-guys-gonna-beef-up-the-rewards-for-defense-winnings/1844 "2015-12-12T01:55:16Z")

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This has probably been discussed before but the rewards you get when someone attacks you and you win are really lousy. You basically get 1 (ONE) glory point. I really think winning when someone attacks you should give wa…

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## [Kingdom bonuses and PvP](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-bonuses-and-pvp/1841)

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**Author:** [@Elendil52](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elendil52)\
**Replies:** 13\
**Last updated:** [December 12, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/kingdom-bonuses-and-pvp/1841 "2015-12-12T01:00:04Z")

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Seems to me the kingdom bonuses (the universal ones you get for having a kingdom at level 10) have made PvP way more lopsided. Before, I generally stayed away from anyone who was more than double my level because of the…

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## [Gems in defense battles?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845)

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**Author:** [@Elendil52](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Elendil52)\
**Replies:** 5\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2015, 11:55pm UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/gems-in-defense-battles/1845 "2015-12-11T23:55:34Z")

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I got a gem once for a defense victory. At first I assumed it might be a glitch or something, but in another thread someone else mentioned it happening to them as well. Is there some formula to this? Is it a freak occ…

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## [Sharing a list of players who defend with strong team?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/sharing-a-list-of-players-who-defend-with-strong-team/1746)

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**Author:** [@dzm67](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/dzm67)\
**Replies:** 33\
**Last updated:** [December 11, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/sharing-a-list-of-players-who-defend-with-strong-team/1746 "2015-12-11T00:46:12Z")

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i’m not so sure about this but…let’s talk about it! When i attack, i already have list of players that i never play with… those with 3X troops with globe, 3 or 4 Jarl, or venoxia, etc… i have already eliminate about 15 …

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## [Clutter of excess weapons](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/clutter-of-excess-weapons/1767)

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**Author:** [@Paulus](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/Paulus)\
**Replies:** 9\
**Last updated:** [December 10, 2015, 9:49am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/clutter-of-excess-weapons/1767 "2015-12-10T09:49:31Z")

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What can be done with the excess clutter of weapons, especially the weaker ones that I will never use again. Couldn’t we trade them in for souls or combine them with other weapons to make them stronger. Also it seemed th…

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## [What is about level 20 Green Slime on the 1.08 preview?](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-about-level-20-green-slime-on-the-1-08-preview/1787)

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**Author:** [@outlander](https://community.gemsofwar.com/u/outlander)\
**Replies:** 10\
**Last updated:** [December 10, 2015, 8:32am UTC](https://community.gemsofwar.com/t/what-is-about-level-20-green-slime-on-the-1-08-preview/1787 "2015-12-10T08:32:26Z")

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Is this showing that the troops level will change from 15 to 20 on the 1.08 patch?

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